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Old 02-15-2005, 11:44 AM
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"my tool box includes Fluid Film spray."

I was just about to post that... there are some good threads in the archives about that stuff.... my Ford Tractor dealer carries it.... it is lanolin ( sheep oil ) based.
Just so happens I've got a Ford tractor It's New Holland's 1720 3 cylinder DIESEL!

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Old 02-15-2005, 12:25 PM
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phosphoric acid. I've had very good results with that stuff.

about $10 for a gallon jug at most home improvement stores.

Sometimes I use an air compressor and spray gun. I stick the hose into the bottle and spray away....under the weel wells, under carriage, floor boards, trunk wells, etc.

be carefull not to get it on your exterior paint work, it will stain.
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Old 02-15-2005, 12:49 PM
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Not yet DieselBone, but I just moved here three weeks ago. What color? I'll keep my eye out ... I'm always on the lookout for Benzes here. Not as many as were in my old home town, but I've seen a couple nice 124s, a 123, a 126 and one "baby Benz" version of my car. Haven't spotted a wagon yet, though. I'm in a (now shamefully dirty) white '87 300D ... give a honk if you see me!

Good to hear! Its the 'cream' color. I'll give a shout if I see you.
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Old 02-15-2005, 01:35 PM
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Not yet DieselBone, but I just moved here three weeks ago. What color? I'll keep my eye out ... I'm always on the lookout for Benzes here. Not as many as were in my old home town, but I've seen a couple nice 124s, a 123, a 126 and one "baby Benz" version of my car. Haven't spotted a wagon yet, though. I'm in a (now shamefully dirty) white '87 300D ... give a honk if you see me!

What state school are you going to? I'm going to Southern CT State Un. If you are ever in the area I have the only blue W126 on campus. Thier is a white 300SEL thats around sometimes thats it. Old MB's are rare, however their are a lot of the newer C class and e class. Their is even an SL55 at one of the dorms.
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Old 02-15-2005, 01:47 PM
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Simple. I don't drive the car in any salt. Works every time I do it.

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I may just move to the alternate universe where PEH lives. Imagine a place without any corrosion!

Seriously, I use Ospho (phosporic acid) and POR for corrosion control.
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Old 02-15-2005, 02:22 PM
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What state school are you going to? I'm going to Southern CT State Un. If you are ever in the area I have the only blue W126 on campus. Thier is a white 300SEL thats around sometimes thats it. Old MB's are rare, however their are a lot of the newer C class and e class. Their is even an SL55 at one of the dorms.
I'm actually just out of school (graduated last May from Bucknell), but now work at a newspaper in the same town as Penn State U (I cover sports there). There aren't many old MBs here, but there were even less when I was in college at Bucknell ... there were two other ones I always saw, a yellow diesel 115 ... I think it belonged to a professor, and then there was a gray 300D just like mine, but with tinted windows. I'd hear it coming while I was out running and get all excited every time. Those were the only two, though. Lots of newer ones though, as BU has many "weathly" students.

Somebody in my workplace has a very attractive C43 AMG and has parked it next to my car a few times. I believe it is the 203 chassis...nice looking car. Have to find out who the owner is!
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rusties.

My prime concern is where the rust is progressing out of sight. Like inside the rocker panels. That also influemces the jack points as well. I always mix up a batch of grease and oil and spray it in 1/2" holes using the available undercoat plugs to seal the holes. The rockers panels are 14 gauge steel i believe. This i do after the required body work is completed and painted as to do the body work later the cleanup would be nearly impossible. The oil and grease creep around in there and reduce oxidation rate to just about nothing. Same mixture into any subframes etc that i can get into. Live in very harsh rustbelt area to start with. Still own a hydralic grease and graphite gun that was required to treat cars years ago. Unfortunatly the large barrels of product are no longer available. Just had to make sure no future work in any area applied as to do it later would required steam cleaning. My old cars were the last ones of their type on the road when used year round and some were still in pretty good shape bodywise. Surface rust on mercedes always has looked like primarily primer/paint adhesion problems or water creep underneath. Seems like non waterproof original primer was used. Starting from an unprotected point like window lip that paint was scrapped off or by trim clip hole. Like to get back to primary clean metal and go from there myself. That way know for sure rust is not going to come back at those locations. Just my beliefs.
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Old 02-15-2005, 03:58 PM
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I've used Rust Bullet on a very small area that started due to a plugged trunk drain. Got to both sides of that one so I'm golden. Also used it underneath my battery tray and on the tray itself, and on some surface rust in the engine compartment sunroof drains(which were plugged up too). The car was taken care of, just the drains were ignored since not everybody has the inside scoop on this stuff. The Rust Bullet is good to use for tight hidden areas, you only have to knock the loose rust off and paint a couple of coats on it and you're done.
I recently bought some jack hole plugs. My jack points are rust free, and what I did was pressure wash them out, roll up one of those blue paper towels, run it up into the holes to get the excess dirt/water out, roll up another one(I'm good at rolling things)slather some wheel bearing grease on that one and run it up in there, just to put a light coating inside, put some grease on the end of the plugs and plug 'em. I'll never use those jack points most likely.
Regarding the Fluid Film Spray; I understand that it's good to spray it inside the rockers. What do I remove to access the inside of the rockers? I see there is a cover of some sort at the rear of the front wheel wells- how does this come off? Someone do post a list of the likely places on w123s that could benefit from a liberal application of Fluid Film Spray.
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:03 PM
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buy a southwest car and move to the sun shine state and stay out of SALT and clean it a lot,i have used por15 great stuff. Dennis
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:43 PM
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access to inside of rocker panels

Think person is speaking of plastic inner well mud flap. Retained by several screws. Front end of actual rocker panel is capped with metal. I drill access holes along bottom of rockers and spray in there. In fact if I remember some of mine were already drilled with plugs. But this may be where aftermarket applied rustproofing job was previously done. Cannot think of any other access to internal area of rockers.
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Old 04-25-2005, 02:15 AM
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Michigan salt.

Very glad I started this thread.
Much good information, between hijacks.
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Old 04-25-2005, 07:45 AM
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The bottom of my 85 300SD is coated with a black waxy substance that has kept rust at bay for 20 years. Not sure what it is , or if it is factory applied.
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:06 AM
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I may just move to the alternate universe where PEH lives. Imagine a place without any corrosion!

Seriously, I use Ospho (phosporic acid) and POR for corrosion control.

THats what I do with my W116...........I don't drive it in the winter months and it park in my driveway away from the street. And I know where he lives sees more salt over the winter than I do. The W123 however begining next winter will see salt becase by then I will have sold my other 2 cars.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:06 AM
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rust

all of the abover are surely true. the most important thing on an older benz is caulking the front and rear windwhield with black silicone to keep water out of the body areas not designed to deal with water. simple easy doesnt take too long. you need to clean the area really well first with some kind of cleaner such as alcohol let it dry then run a small bead between the glass and rubber.

if this is not done, you get a rusty floor which may not be known until the seat starts to fall through, and rust above the wheel opening in back and the bottom of the trunk on each side.

happy benzing.
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"the most important thing on an older benz is caulking the front and rear windwhield with black silicone to keep water out of the body areas not designed to deal with water."

Please don't do this! Silicone absorbs water and will cause rust around your windows!

The correct thing is butyl rubber sealant, any auto glass shop can reseal your windows for you.

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