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Old 01-25-2006, 02:52 PM
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I would clean it up, with a wire brush on a drill, then clean with solvent, then fill it with long strand catalyzed body filler, which has remarkable tensil strength, maybe $15 to $20 a quart. You could fill a hole ten times that size and it would hold. Then sand it down with a sanding disk on a drill, slap a coat of black paint on it, inside and out. Might take an hour. Keep water away from it and it will last for many years - easily the life of the car. Save the cutting torch/welding idea for when you have a Gullwing.

keep water away from it.. its in a spot where water from driving on wet roads will hit.. ..

as soon as i can i think ill sand it all down to clean metal and put a piece of sheet metal in the trunk and then use the long stranded catalyzed body filler then some por 15 maybe and then prime it and try and find some paint to match..
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Old 01-25-2006, 03:08 PM
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I would clean it up, with a wire brush on a drill, then clean with solvent, then fill it with long strand catalyzed body filler, which has remarkable tensil strength, maybe $15 to $20 a quart. You could fill a hole ten times that size and it would hold. Then sand it down with a sanding disk on a drill, slap a coat of black paint on it, inside and out. Might take an hour. Keep water away from it and it will last for many years - easily the life of the car. Save the cutting torch/welding idea for when you have a Gullwing.
Why not take just a little bit longer and fix it with real metal? Instead of wire brushing, cut around the rust with a cutting wheel (straight line segments are easiest) then do the same on a donor car (make sure you leave a few inches extra all the way around). Then place the your replacement part in the hole and cut it so it fits perfectly. Spot weld it in place, grind down the welds on the out side, seam seal and prep for paint. You should be able to get the replacement panel form a junk yard for about $20 (there are lots of 123s out there). Total time: 3 hrs or so (not including paint, but you still have to paint the filler too), and the car is as good as new.
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Old 01-25-2006, 03:20 PM
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Why not take just a little bit longer and fix it with real metal? Instead of wire brushing, cut around the rust with a cutting wheel (straight line segments are easiest) then do the same on a donor car (make sure you leave a few inches extra all the way around). Then place the your replacement part in the hole and cut it so it fits perfectly. Spot weld it in place, grind down the welds on the out side, seam seal and prep for paint. You should be able to get the replacement panel form a junk yard for about $20 (there are lots of 123s out there). Total time: 3 hrs or so (not including paint, but you still have to paint the filler too), and the car is as good as new.

thats my original plan .. i just need the panel from a junk car ..
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Old 01-25-2006, 04:56 PM
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Me too. When I get around to hitting up a junk yard I'll see if I can find a couple. There is a MB yard about 6 hrs from here near my home town, next time I go home for a visit I'll take a look.
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Old 01-25-2006, 06:07 PM
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I would clean it up, with a wire brush on a drill, then clean with solvent, then fill it with long strand catalyzed body filler, which has remarkable tensil strength, maybe $15 to $20 a quart. You could fill a hole ten times that size and it would hold. Then sand it down with a sanding disk on a drill, slap a coat of black paint on it, inside and out. Might take an hour. Keep water away from it and it will last for many years - easily the life of the car. Save the cutting torch/welding idea for when you have a Gullwing.
I would not use body filler aka Bondo for any reason. It absorbs moisture. Thusly, it can cause more rust. In a spot like the trunk wells, it's not practical to keep water away from it. The rear tires will sling water on it whilst driving. The only way to keep water away from it would be to not drive it in the wet, which is too much to ask.
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Based upon that last picture, your tail lights are leaking. I used tub and tile caulk on mine...worked like a charm till I can do it right.
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Old 01-26-2006, 09:41 AM
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Duraglass is a fiberglass filler that doesn't absorb water. I use it on keels that sit in the water for 6-12 months and it does fine. Corvette resto shops use it a lot.

If you can't weld I think if you grind, then POR/paint the rest, and fill with Duraglass you will have a decent repair.

Bondo is fine if you use it for what it is ment for. Filling a hole like that is not what bondo is for. Bondo is for smoothing out small inperfections on the cars surface before painting.
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Me too. When I get around to hitting up a junk yard I'll see if I can find a couple. There is a MB yard about 6 hrs from here near my home town, next time I go home for a visit I'll take a look.
Where is this MB Yard. I live in Boise, ID. Is it somewhere between us?
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Old 01-26-2006, 02:13 PM
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It's in Tacoma. I've never been there, just heard of it. Hopefully it's not just a rumor. We should have a valve adjusting party or something.
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It's in Tacoma. I've never been there, just heard of it. Hopefully it's not just a rumor. We should have a valve adjusting party or something.
I'm sure someone here has been there.

Sounds like a plan to me.
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Old 01-29-2006, 02:52 PM
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**************.com has a rust repair kit with some fiberglass stuff and a rust treatment paint.. i cant get a link but its under rust repair on their site..

anyone ever try it?
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:59 PM
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I got my wire feed welder from my parent's house and will be getting a patch panel off of a junker this weekend. I'll keep you posted on the project
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