Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Do It Yourself Links & Resources > Bodywork - Repair, Paint, Tools, Tips & Tricks

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #76  
Old 01-13-2008, 08:46 AM
Diesel Preferred
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 2,788
Not happy to hear about that, but at least they entertained the question. I just took a look at my wagon, and it does have very small cracks in the same area.

I'm afraid I'll be having the same repair to my car. I'll get a couple opinions first, push the dealer for a warranty fix (the 107 series have lifetime warranty on cracks in their rear lower control arms, why is the 124 series different?), and then consider my options. I really wanted to be driving this car for another 10 to 20 years....

__________________
Respectfully,
/s/
M. Dillon
'87 124.193 (300TD) "White Whale", ~392k miles, 3.5l IP fitted
'95 124.131 (E300) "Sapphire", 380k miles
'73 Balboa 20 "Sanctification"
Charleston SC
Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 01-13-2008, 12:07 PM
Unofficial wormcan opener
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ashland, MA
Posts: 2,602
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxbumpo View Post
Not happy to hear about that, but at least they entertained the question. I just took a look at my wagon, and it does have very small cracks in the same area.

I'm afraid I'll be having the same repair to my car. I'll get a couple opinions first, push the dealer for a warranty fix (the 107 series have lifetime warranty on cracks in their rear lower control arms, why is the 124 series different?), and then consider my options. I really wanted to be driving this car for another 10 to 20 years....
Max,

I feel your pain. If they are still small, I would consider having them welded and then reinforced with a second piece of steel. If you get MB to pay for the repair, please let me know. I have a $3,000 invoice for them.

Chris
__________________
1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 01-14-2008, 08:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Posts: 2,638
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bio300TDTdriver View Post
Max,

I feel your pain. If they are still small, I would consider having them welded and then reinforced with a second piece of steel. If you get MB to pay for the repair, please let me know. I have a $3,000 invoice for them.

Chris
Does you invoice have the pn# ?

I'm going to check both my wagons, 1988 and 1995. I think I'm going to call them, Alpha and Omega . . .

:-) neil
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 01-14-2008, 09:16 PM
Unofficial wormcan opener
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ashland, MA
Posts: 2,602
Quote:
Originally Posted by ke6dcj View Post
Does you invoice have the pn# ?

I'm going to check both my wagons, 1988 and 1995. I think I'm going to call them, Alpha and Omega . . .

:-) neil
The 95 should have the updated crossmember. The part number was not on the receipt, but here it is from the EPC. Group 61 substructure. Page or picture number 4. 045 rear end floor Part number 35. 124 610 02 16.

Chris
__________________
1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 01-15-2008, 08:05 AM
Diesel Preferred
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 2,788
Chris,

Would you do me the favor of registering a complaint with NHTSA? Here is the link for making the complain on-line: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm

I'm going to do same after I've showed the dealer and gotten their opinion.
__________________
Respectfully,
/s/
M. Dillon
'87 124.193 (300TD) "White Whale", ~392k miles, 3.5l IP fitted
'95 124.131 (E300) "Sapphire", 380k miles
'73 Balboa 20 "Sanctification"
Charleston SC
Reply With Quote
  #81  
Old 01-15-2008, 10:32 AM
Unofficial wormcan opener
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ashland, MA
Posts: 2,602
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxbumpo View Post
Chris,

Would you do me the favor of registering a complaint with NHTSA? Here is the link for making the complain on-line: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm

I'm going to do same after I've showed the dealer and gotten their opinion.
Yes I will. I actually meant to do that months ago.

Chris
__________________
1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 01-15-2008, 08:21 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Posts: 2,638
Quote:
Originally Posted by ke6dcj View Post
Does you invoice have the pn# ?

I'm going to check both my wagons, 1988 and 1995. I think I'm going to call them, Alpha and Omega . . .

:-) neil
I checked both, and no cracks.

:-) neil
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 01-15-2008, 10:24 PM
Unofficial wormcan opener
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ashland, MA
Posts: 2,602
Good!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ke6dcj View Post
I checked both, and no cracks.

:-) neil
Glad to hear it.
__________________
1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 03-12-2008, 12:20 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
Posts: 6,510
Certainly the rusting does not increase the strength. Something preventative about that can be done. I am thinking a coating sprayed on and inside any member of a oil and grease mixture resulting in a pretty thick vicosity.
Since the problem was experienced when the cars where much newer as well in just might be a design fabrication that was too light for loading purposes. Pure stress cracking because of the flexing moments resulted.
One thing for sure even though these are station wagons. I would not overload them. The self lifting rear end equilization might have fooled users.
For example when loading a half ton truck on the heavy side the resultant sag clues me in to when enough is enough. In fact conciously keeping the weight carried back there low might extend the lifespan. Conversly if I felt the rear end would come back up I could easily go overboard. Human nature to push things sometimes.
The gentleman in question that found no evidence of problem on two of his examples was refreshing. There is hope they wil not all develop this problem. Another factor is going to be the overall accumulated miles. Certainly one area to carefully check out prior to the purchase of one of these. A somewhat miserable problem to address so you certainly do not want to buy it. Really great that you posted the problem as more people like myself are now aware it is a valid concern.
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 11-17-2008, 12:00 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: England
Posts: 43
Hi Guys

Just read this post from start to end and the question that seems obvious to ask is this: do you not have an annual inspection of your vehicles like we have in the UK ?????????????

Along with emissions testing the vehicles are lifted into the air and carefully inspected mechanically with particular attention paid to load areas such as suspension fixings etc.

That would have definately been picked up over here and it would have failed the exam and not been allowed on the road until fixed and another test passed.

Your 3000 dollar invoice needs to be sent to the last testing station you used.
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 11-17-2008, 01:34 PM
Unofficial wormcan opener
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ashland, MA
Posts: 2,602
vehicle inspections

Quote:
Originally Posted by kth286 View Post
Hi Guys

Just read this post from start to end and the question that seems obvious to ask is this: do you not have an annual inspection of your vehicles like we have in the UK ?????????????

Along with emissions testing the vehicles are lifted into the air and carefully inspected mechanically with particular attention paid to load areas such as suspension fixings etc.

That would have definately been picked up over here and it would have failed the exam and not been allowed on the road until fixed and another test passed.

Your 3000 dollar invoice needs to be sent to the last testing station you used.
The short answer is no. It varies by state and even counties within the state. They are much more concerned with emissions than with safety. They most likely would not have spotted the problem.

__________________
1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page