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Old 03-07-2009, 04:22 PM
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Installing w123 windshield

I got a new seal, new chrome moldings(after I bent the f@&% out of the original ones) and a new used windshield. Now I'm putting it back into the car, but I can't get it in all the way. I was told that I have to put the chrome pieces with the seal and windshield together. I also have the rope wrapped around the seal an a good amount of 3M window weld.. it makes a mess, but I rather clean it now that have it leaking.

OK, now my question is basically how to put the windhsield? SHould I just push it n or put the bottom first?? When do I have to pull the rope??

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Old 03-07-2009, 04:30 PM
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Good Luck. Are you doing it as a one person job ?
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Old 03-07-2009, 04:31 PM
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no, I'm here with a friend
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Old 03-07-2009, 04:39 PM
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Did you read the FSM instructions first ?
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:17 PM
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Well, I am going to try some predictions...
You have a real mess on your hands.
By the time you applied that 3M and then decided to get on the computer to ask the question it was probably already skinning up... which would increase your friction factor way past reasonable.
As far as I know most windshields are installed with water or a drop of detergent and water ... then sealant is applied after it is installed.
My possibly faulty memory of the description in the FSM seems to bring up that image.
I predict that you will either break the not new glass if you continue... and need to buy a new seal and start completely over to get a satisfactory result.
I hope I am not right...but I have dealt with a few glass installation situations in the past and cleanliness, speed, friction, extra helping hands, and luck are needed to avoid the first try needing a ' mulligan' ( do over as in Golf ).....
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:34 PM
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Haven't put one in myself but I have watched Safelite do it twice. Chrome goes in after everything else is done. Sealant goes under rubber once glass and rubber are installed.
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:52 PM
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You are mostly right leathermang. Whole thing is a freaking mess now. However I did manage to save the seal and "not new" windshield. I have to remove the 3M(big mess) and start all over again.
I actually have the laptop with me at the garage, so i can check everything right away.

Whats FSM?? Fast Sticky Mess??
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Kerry , Was that on one of our old MB's ? I think on ours the trim ( which I think is brushed aluminum ) is in the rubber when it goes on... much the opposite of my intuition and other cars...
One ( or two people ) would push on the area where the two ends of the rope are installed ( mid lower or upper ) ... as they will be pulling the rubber lip in first..
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:55 PM
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LOL,,
FSM FACTORY SHOP MANUAL ....
EEEEAAAAAKKKKK... 3M on your keyboard ?
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:56 PM
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Ok... so now you know that applying 3M before asking for instructions is the wrong order ?
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:34 PM
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haha.. yeah, I guess it is and I do have a little 3M on my keyboard.
Apparently is easier to remove(3M) when is dry. I'm going to work on my 2002 for a while until it dries. Thanks for the FSM!!!
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:44 PM
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Kerry , Was that on one of our old MB's ? I think on ours the trim ( which I think is brushed aluminum ) is in the rubber when it goes on... much the opposite of my intuition and other cars...
One ( or two people ) would push on the area where the two ends of the rope are installed ( mid lower or upper ) ... as they will be pulling the rubber lip in first..
Yes, a 123.
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I got a new seal, new chrome moldings(after I bent the f@&% out of the original ones) and a new used windshield. Now I'm putting it back into the car, but I can't get it in all the way. I was told that I have to put the chrome pieces with the seal and windshield together. I also have the rope wrapped around the seal an a good amount of 3M window weld.. it makes a mess, but I rather clean it now that have it leaking.

OK, now my question is basically how to put the windhsield? SHould I just push it n or put the bottom first?? When do I have to pull the rope??

I just installed the rear glass on my 84 300SD. I was reluctant to try this at first so I ordered the DVD from Diesel Giant. I went very well, no problem.
Since I no longer need the DVD I will sell it to you at half price plus $4.95
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:04 PM
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Safelite came and did mine. didn't use any sealer, and I have no leaks in either car. When you slowly pull the rope out of the seal, it sucks the windshield in. I believe this is when old windshields break. The windshield sort of sits on the outside til you start the rope thing, and then it's like magic. Best of luck. Oh, and they did the seal and chrome before putting it in. Used a foaming glass cleaner as lube, since it dries fairly quickly with no ill effects.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:32 AM
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Put (and keep) the trim in the seal first. Use a good lubricant like Windex or Joy dish soap. Use coated wire. Make sure it is lined up side-to-side (in fact, you might want to put a grease pencil mark on your roof and the center of the glass). Start by inserting the bottom over the pinchweld . Apply even pressure from outside as you pull on the wire. Keep lubricating with a spray bottle as you go. The first one is the hardest and putting the seal on is harder than putting the glass in , so you are already on a roll.

Rick

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