W126 '82 300SD Repainting and repairing trim, color code needed - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

alex_nl · #1 12-01-2008, 06:33 AM

Edit: Forgot to add in the title: The car is a W126 '82 300SD

Hi,

My front and back bumpers have some scratches, and i want to repair them. After the repairing i need to repaint them, but i can't seem to find the right color. I went to a local paint shop, and they made me a can of spray paint, but it was by far not the same color. Is there some way to retrieve this color of the trim, like there is a way to receive the paint color of the car?

The car color is 684 Taigabeige.

Thanks!

TX76513 · #2 12-01-2008, 09:37 AM

www.paintscratch.com

alex_nl · #3 12-01-2008, 12:16 PM

Hi, thanks for the reply. When i enter my car information on that site, i only can buy paint in the color Taigabeige. I don't see an option for other trim colors that come in combination with taigabeige as a clearcoat.

Or am i wrong?

tyl604 · #4 12-01-2008, 03:03 PM

Thought MB did not use two stage paint with clear coat during th 1980's. If so, then your paint color should be correct - no clear coat, just paint.

Mike D · #5 12-01-2008, 05:10 PM

Clear coat, code #524 "Paintcoat preservative" on the build sheet, was an option from 1970 until about 1980 when it became the norm.

Get a copy of the build sheet from the Mercedes USA site (mbusa.com) to find out for sure.

My 1972 250C, 1974 280C and 1978 300D have it. My 1973 280 does not.

tyl604 · #6 12-01-2008, 09:33 PM

Mike - guess that means that my 81 300SD originally had a clear coat over the midnight blue paint. However I would guess that I have compounded that clear coat off over the past almost 30 years and am working on the real paint now. I especially have water spot problems on the hood, top, and trunk that I compound out from time to time. Have not found any wax that will prevent the water spots and they are the dickens to get out. Over and over.

alex_nl · #7 12-02-2008, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D

Clear coat, code #524 "Paintcoat preservative" on the build sheet, was an option from 1970 until about 1980 when it became the norm.

Get a copy of the build sheet from the Mercedes USA site (mbusa.com) to find out for sure.

My 1972 250C, 1974 280C and 1978 300D have it. My 1973 280 does not.

Ok, i understand. But that's not really what i wanted to know. The paint of the car is in pristine condition, whether it's clearcoat or normal paint. But what i would like to know is which color is what i've indicated with the red marks. Because my bumpers aren't in that good condition anymore

Thanks

Mike D · #8 12-02-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by alex_nl

Ok, i understand. But that's not really what i wanted to know. The paint of the car is in pristine condition, whether it's clearcoat or normal paint. But what i would like to know is which color is what i've indicated with the red marks. Because my bumpers aren't in that good condition anymore

Thanks

The build sheet should tell you what color those areas are if they came from the factory. It's possible the gray was applied by a PO or the dealer if the car arrived damaged in shipping.

Mike D · #9 12-02-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tyl604

Mike - guess that means that my 81 300SD originally had a clear coat over the midnight blue paint. However I would guess that I have compounded that clear coat off over the past almost 30 years and am working on the real paint now. I especially have water spot problems on the hood, top, and trunk that I compound out from time to time. Have not found any wax that will prevent the water spots and they are the dickens to get out. Over and over.

Could be. The early "clear coat" was a preservative coat sprayed over the paint. It is different than a true "two stage" paint job. They didn't have the technique figured out completely until the mid-eighties.

Maybe try a "resin glaze"? You need to put a hard shell over the paint and not just a wax to get the original protection. The exposed paint was/is soft to allow the binding of the preservative.

Ask JMK, he's the man for the paint questions.

alex_nl · #10 12-02-2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D

The build sheet should tell you what color those areas are if they came from the factory. It's possible the gray was applied by a PO or the dealer if the car arrived damaged in shipping.

Ok thank you. I will try to get a build sheet. The parts that look gray are in real the same color as the brown color with the other mark. It looks different on the pictures.

alex_nl · #11 12-02-2008, 01:28 PM

I tried to get in contact with Mercedes Benz after my previous e-mail, and i just received my Build sheet from Mercedes Benz of monterey. I used the VIN of my other 300SD, with identical color trim. However this sheet does not state the color of the trim, only the upholstery and paint color.

Code:

Vin WDBCB20A7CB017512      TRANSMISSION # 0134010     ENGINE # 617951-12-017560

FIN 126120-12-017512              UPHOLSTERY # 234               PAINT # 623

PRODUCTION DATE 10/02/1981     RETAIL DATE 11/30/1981 in southern California

 

Option code    Description
etc.

Can it be this sheet i received is not complete? Or is it right that the trim colors are not located on a build sheet?

Mike D · #12 12-02-2008, 11:09 PM

Nah, that's not the build sheet. That is the dealer record. Go to mbusa.com and request the sheet. Ya gotta dig around on the site some to find the request form.

The build sheet has all the codes; engine, transmission, interior, paint, rear window defroster, window tinting, radio, tires, EVERYTHING!

alex_nl · #13 12-04-2008, 05:08 AM

I've found out that the information i was looking for is available in the EPC. I've registered my self at the European online EPC, since the USA version is not available for me because i don't live in the USA. And all the <'86 models that where available in Europe (280/380/500 S(E)(L)) have the same bumper colors available. See the print screen:

So it depends which color code your car is, whether you will have Mat Grey, Anthracit Grey of Mat Brown bumpers and trim. So in my case my bumpers should be Anthracit Grey, according to my paint code which is 623 Hellelfenbein But it doesn't look grey, it looks more brown to me.

Since i can only register to the European EPC, the W126 300SD, which was available in the USA only, is not available in this EPC!

We don't have an option like the US version of EPCnet online to register for EPC with 'World Passenger Car' support.

Is there someone here who can look into the US EPC, on EPCnet online (http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/welcome.jsp), and look this up for me for my 300SD. Perhaps they had different color combinations then the cars delivered in Europe.

In the EPC you can find it Group 88: ATTACHMENT PARTS, and subgroup 030 FRONT BUMPER. My VIN is: WDBCB20A7CB017512

I would really apreciate it!

Cal Learner · #14 12-04-2008, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex_nl

I've found out that the information i was looking for is available in the EPC. I've registered my self at the European online EPC, since the USA version is not available for me because i don't live in the USA. And all the <'86 models that where available in Europe (280/380/500 S(E)(L)) have the same bumper colors available. See the print screen:

So it depends which color code your car is, whether you will have Mat Grey, Anthracit Grey of Mat Brown bumpers and trim. So in my case my bumpers should be Anthracit Grey, according to my paint code which is 623 Hellelfenbein But it doesn't look grey, it looks more brown to me.

Since i can only register to the European EPC, the W126 300SD, which was available in the USA only, is not available in this EPC!

We don't have an option like the US version of EPCnet online to register for EPC with 'World Passenger Car' support.

Is there someone here who can look into the US EPC, on EPCnet online (http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/welcome.jsp), and look this up for me for my 300SD. Perhaps they had different color combinations then the cars delivered in Europe.

In the EPC you can find it Group 88: ATTACHMENT PARTS, and subgroup 030 FRONT BUMPER. My VIN is: WDBCB20A7CB017512

I would really apreciate it!

For your vehicle paint color, my reading of the epc says that the correct bumper trim color is matte brown (color code 8414), not anthracite grey (7172). Anthracite grey was phased out with vehicle serial number 017268, and brown started as of vehicle serial number 017269. Your serial number is 017512; you just missed the conversion from grey to brown. That would help explain why those trim pieces look brown to you and not grey. If I can figure out how to do it, I'll post a screen shot of the epc footnote #069 and #902 which apply to your vehicle. Good luck.

BTW, you gave us two paint codes for your vehicle, 623 (Hellelfenbein) and 684 (Taigabeige). The datacard for your VIN says the paint is 623, but it sure looks like 684 in the photo. In either case, matte brown is the correct trim color for the bumper panels.

Cal Learner · #15 12-04-2008, 09:25 AM

I guess I don't know how to post a screen shot, but the relevant footnotes for your vehicle are 069 and 902, not 901 as you posted. What do I need to do to post a screen capture shot. I've got the shot and saved it as a gif file, but when I specify the path to the file, it won't upload it. Pilot error??