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Old 10-11-2010, 12:30 PM
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Put it this way: It's used in Britain, they swear by it and they have the worst humidity and rust problems I've ever seen, especially near the Atlantic coast.

I have used Waxoyl on my DS21. convertible which lived all its life in Arizona til I got it and still no rust after 8 years.
Waxoyl is popular - however - is seems to be more popular with certain makes and sometimes generations. Dinitron is also quite popular too.

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Waxoyl is popular - however - is seems to be more popular with certain makes and sometimes generations. Dinitron is also quite popular too.

Waxoyl isn't available everywhere, which may explain that partly. Am not familiar with Dinitron, is it available in the Netherlands?
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Old 10-11-2010, 01:23 PM
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Waxoyl isn't available everywhere, which may explain that partly. Am not familiar with Dinitron, is it available in the Netherlands?
Yes there's a company called frost automotive (www.frost.co.uk) who have an independent chap (Blankers) who sells stuff here.

Frosts are a little bit like Eastwoods - they do in fact stock some of their products. This is a bit of a God send as I'm a bit of a fan of their stuff.
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Old 10-12-2010, 05:08 AM
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This is what happens to old Waxoyl type stuff

Continuing the rust proofing product discussion here is a picture of what happens to old Waxoyl type stuff (I don't know for sure whether this was indeed Waxoyl applied to the lower parts of my engine bay but this is typical of what this sort of product looks like when it has been on the car for ages)

By applying these sorts of adhering oils to cavities and other parts of your car you are essentially creating an automotive form of fly paper - lots of muck and dust will stick to the rust proofing product. Eventually they will dry out and form this sort of crusty custard appearance.

I am not sure whether at this stage this sort of coating is helping with rust prevention anymore as it suspiciously looks like a type of emulsion to me. This could indicate that there is water in there too. I don't know this for sure though...

If you are going to apply rust prevention products inside cavities make sure that you do not block up any drain holes - you will cause more damage if water can not escape from the structure as intended.

For areas that you can reach or see a tip that I picked up is to use old engine oil as a rust prevention remedy. This is widely known about and used both here in the Netherlands and in the UK. It is cheap and generally considered to be just as good if not better than a bought alternative.

I have seen people using old engine oil as a cavity spray too - but it is really messy. Your car will be leaking oil for weeks and weeks!

Please note - when I say old engine oil I specifically mean old engine oil from a petrol engine. I am unsure whether old engine oil from a diesel engine is suitable as I have heard that this is corrosive - I'm in the process of checking this out.

In my experience the use of old engine oil tends not to be so sticky after it has dried off a bit. You don't get too much of a fly paper effect.

I guess there will be some who say that underseal should be applied to surfaces you can see and reach instead of a more fluid oil preventative solution. I have never liked underseal though as it tends to get used as a cover it up and hide the rust solution. I would never buy a second hand car that has been recently undersealed for exactly that reason.

In my opinion there is no such thing as a quick and easy spray and forget solution when it comes to rust prevention. There is nothing that can beat regular inspection and conventional repainting remedies.
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it's Dinitrol isn't it ? .It's a danish invention and probably the best thing ,apart storing your car in Saudi Arabia , to prevent rust.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:57 AM
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it's Dinitrol isn't it ? .It's a danish invention and probably the best thing ,apart storing your car in Saudi Arabia , to prevent rust.
Could be but I'm not sure how long Dinitrol has been around - I'm guessing the treatment was done a really long time ago when the car was in Switzerland as bits have rusted since then.

(I've tried to find out how long they've been making the stuff but it doesn't say on http://www.dinitrol.co.uk/ - I thought it was an "invention" from the early 1990s / late 1980s - but I'm probably wrong)
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FYI - Home made Wax oil

There are a lot of other recipes too but they are pretty much the same:

http://www.mgexperience.net/archive/waxoyl/15334

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