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Old 07-20-2013, 04:27 PM
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Prototype welding trolley

G'day Folks,

Today one man and his shed came up with this prototype welding trolley.

I made it out of OSB because that's what was in the shed. This is partly a necessity and partly using up what's left over. Recycle - re-use etc

I was going to just buy a cheap set of sack trucks and ratchet strap the gas bottles to it but then I realised oh what do I do about all of the other stuff I'd like to have all in one place?

So I came up with this =>





The bench grinder bit is held in place with magnets - it just clips out of the way so I can reach the whole storage area



As you might be able to see I've got an oxy acetylene set up and a DC TIG amplifier which I also use for MMA

I've got to figure out how to store the argon hose and I need to make a pull out shelf for the amplifier 'cos it will over heat in the box. I also want to make some handles so I can push it along just like a set of sack trucks. I also think I probably need to get some bigger wheels under it. The castors I have are OK but they're not too great over rough ground.

So what do you all think?
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:02 PM
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House calls..er...garage calls??? Ha! Ha! There's definitely enough scrap in my garage to do the same. Stretch you need to come on holiday to the states and hire yourself out! Too many good ideas for only your Euro friends. Alas, it wouldn't be a holiday then would it? Nice job.
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Mmmm, Stretch ol' buddy, ONE thing I'd like to point out. Welding creates sparks, sparks create flames, flames around welding supplies create anxieties, anxious welders in flames create Youtube opportunities. That is all.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:13 AM
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House calls..er...garage calls??? Ha! Ha! There's definitely enough scrap in my garage to do the same. Stretch you need to come on holiday to the states and hire yourself out! Too many good ideas for only your Euro friends. Alas, it wouldn't be a holiday then would it? Nice job.
Busman's holiday - I'm up for that!
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:21 AM
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Mmmm, Stretch ol' buddy, ONE thing I'd like to point out. Welding creates sparks, sparks create flames, flames around welding supplies create anxieties, anxious welders in flames create Youtube opportunities. That is all.
Mike you have a valid point - a metal frame would be more in keeping with the norm! However I have pretty long leads for the amplifier and the gas welding hoses are 10 meters long. The plan isn't to have the trolley too close to swearing and hole burning action...


...so that being said I think I'll scrap the idea of the amplifier coming out on a sliding shelf - I'll just remove it from the trolley, weld, and put it back.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:22 AM
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Oh I forgot to say about the grinder =>

I don't plan to use the grinder where it is positioned. The plan was to unclip and move it out of the way to do the grinding (hence the use of magnets). I've only put it there to help remind me that this grinder is only to be used for grinding tungstens - if I leave it anywhere else I'll be tempted to "forget" and just use it for something else...
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nice set up
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Old 04-12-2015, 07:51 PM
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Nice and workable. The only thing I see missing is a fire extinguisher.
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Old 04-13-2015, 07:06 AM
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Having used the thing for a while I reached the conclusion that the base is a bit too narrow for the height of the bottles - nothing dreadful has happened yet but I think I need to make a new one that isn't quite so tippy...

...when I get moved into my new place I think I'll construct something from steel...

...to be continued
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Old 04-13-2015, 07:16 AM
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I'd be concerned with the OSB catching fire if sparks made it to the wrong place.
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Old 04-13-2015, 07:23 AM
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I'd be concerned with the OSB catching fire if sparks made it to the wrong place.
I think that is a valid concern up to a point.

Firstly I remove the amplifier from the construction when I'm welding because there isn't enough ventilation in the box (so that part of the design needs to be changed). The length of the argon hose is about 10 metres so I push the trolley well away from any sparking / grinding activity.

When gas welding I also push the trolley away from welding activities for the concerns you make - because I really don't want to see one of those bottles launch itself into the stratosphere (knowing my luck taking out an Airbus on its way up).

I have, however, used OSB as a sacrificial top to a work bench when welding and it really does need a lot of persistence to get it going. It seems to have quite good fire resistant properties / abilities - even though it isn't sold with them as such. I get the feeling you would need to have one heck of a lot of sparks to get it to start to burn - but like I said I'm not planning on finding out the hard way...
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:24 PM
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Stretch,

One other thing that probably I would know this, but there is another more important reason than flame on why you should abandon OSB as a sacrificial surface:

http://osbguide.tecotested.com/pdfs/en/tb114.pdf

You don't want to be breathing these. Burning the stuff in a regular fire is one thing, but an oxy-acelylene torch has a much higher temperature.

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Old 05-05-2015, 04:58 AM
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Stretch,

One other thing that probably I would know this, but there is another more important reason than flame on why you should abandon OSB as a sacrificial surface:

http://osbguide.tecotested.com/pdfs/en/tb114.pdf

You don't want to be breathing these. Burning the stuff in a regular fire is one thing, but an oxy-acelylene torch has a much higher temperature.

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Thanks for the warning - I have actually moved on to using fire bricks for welding on a work bench. Also as I am quite sensitive to smells (including those produced by welding!) I often wear masks...

...the worst thing about OSB in my opinion is the dust produced when cutting - it is really nasty stuff. Still when it is all that's left in the shed and you don't like to go shopping...
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:48 PM
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Yea, OSB is generally junk. There is one exception that I know of, Wersalit.

WERZALIT-Homepage

This stuff is actually good. The resins in OSB never really cure properly in the manufacturing process. The smell you get from the dust is similar to unreacted paint. The unreacted material eventually self condenses in the presence of water, but those reactions add nothing to the strength and durability of the material.

There was a local chain of restaurants, Sisters Chicken and Biscuits, that had their stores made with Werzalit board. The chain is long gone, but it is amazing how the board has held up over the last 25 years.

Though I still wouldn't use Werzalit as welding bench. . . .
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