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Old 09-06-2013, 03:33 PM
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The weirdest thing about the whole W123 floor pan design is that they put in all of those expensive and difficult to identify rubber / plastic bungs and then covered over the top of most of them with the sound proofing and covered the underside with that rubber junk. You could never use them with out some serious "modification" to the sound proofing or the undercoating.
I think a lot of those plugs have to do with the production process. My brother in law tells me he went on a plant visit back when he was in Canadian Forces stationed in Germany. He said the cars went through a dip tank. I guess they needed holes to allow the paint to drain. I seem to recall some of them having a name indicating that.

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Old 09-06-2013, 06:30 PM
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I agree with that, but how many check their cars condition constantly! I was thinking about this the other day, in relation to these spots that where welded with new metal. Since the back seat floor area is the low spot in the interior compartment and it appears from reading and experience that water gathers in these areas, wouldn't it be a good idea to put a moisture sensor on the floor with some kind of alarm. Probably would not be expensive and my alter drivers of potential rust problems way before they degrade any metal ? Just a thought...

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Sorry Greg, the sensor/alarm would go off from wet feet on most rain or snow days.
Depending upon what type of sensor is used, humidity and/or minor condensation could set it off.

The only permanent 100% answer is moving to a desert state.

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That's correct Roy about the sensors. I had that thought also ! As for moving to a desert state, not a possibility at the moment for my better half can't stand the heat and would like to move up the New England area.

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Old 09-06-2013, 11:54 PM
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I think a lot of those plugs have to do with the production process. My brother in law tells me he went on a plant visit back when he was in Canadian Forces stationed in Germany. He said the cars went through a dip tank. I guess they needed holes to allow the paint to drain. I seem to recall some of them having a name indicating that.
Ah ha - I see...

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greg - i think you are right about american body shops. they seem not to want cash jobs, just insurance.

the sensor proposal is problematic, so here is another off-the-wall idea: chunks or sacks of indicating silica gel in the 2 or 4 most vulnerable spots. this is a desiccant that changes color on wetting. you could peel back the corners of the carpet every few weeks in the wintertime to see whether each spot had gotten wet. (you'd have to know how quickly given size pieces of it would wet themselves up in your normal atmospheric conditions... i do remember charm city being pretty humid... hrm.)
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.............................Since the back seat floor area is the low spot in the interior compartment and it appears from reading and experiece that water gathers in these areas, wouldn't it be a good idea to put a moisture sensor on the floor with some kind of alarm. Probably would not be expensive and my alter drivers of potential rust problems way before they degrade any metal ? Just a thought...

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A moisture alarm is a great idea! I have a circuit that may work. I'll build one and test, will report back.
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That's correct Roy about the sensors. I had that thought also ! As for moving to a desert state, not a possibility at the moment for my better half can't stand the heat and would like to move up the New England area.
I assume she would enjoy https://www.mainelistings.com/

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Funola, I'll be looking forward to that. Where you place it and if you want to share the schematic with others, I know that I could build the circuit.
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Funola, I'll be looking forward to that. Where you place it and if you want to share the schematic with others, I know that I could build the circuit.
Wait until he tests it.

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