lake erie trading post 123 chassis patch panels
Ive ordered up a set of these-
1976-1985 W123 - Rust Repair Panels wonder if anyone has installed this product and has opinions on its quality? Very interested to compare with stock sheet metal, but will definitely save me a boatload of time repairing rear fender rust on two 123 chassis vehicles. Price is definitely right |
Just asked what you will think of them when you get them in your other thread!
I have a whole original rear wing to be fitted (somewhere in this thread)=> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/body-repair-restoration/303669-my-w123-saloon-sedan-old-accident-repair-bit-rust-repair-thread.html (I'm not impressed with the klokkerholm panels that I've bought so far) |
saw that and answered! :D
so it looks like this IS the same company that sent you that bath mat floor pan. I hope the exterior sheet metal piece doesn't look like that floor pan, that was horrible. What was the gauge of the steel if you recall? |
I hope they put some more effort into the outer panels.
We'll see eh? If I remember correctly the steel was 0.8mm thick |
my existing patch pieces cut from a car are about 1.5 mm thick, so .8 mm is already just a little over half the thickness of OEM.
If its stamped well enough, it should still be ok. We will see I guess. |
You've seen the Wheeler Dealers W123 wing episode haven't you?
(I hope it won't be like that for you) |
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whats "wheeler Dealers"? EDIT- watching in now on youtube! |
So what did you think?
Wheeler Dealers is sometimes quite good fun - they've been doing quite a few classics as well as the more modern flips |
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I thought the MB they were working on was amazingly unrusted for the age. I also was amazed at that parts facility where they bought a fender. That was impressive. I did think the "buy and fix for less than 1000 pounds" was amazingly unrealisitic, but they weren't really going in depth to the cars condition, just replacing some obvious surface dents cheaply. That car probably has loads of issues still One thing is for sure, you could never go on that show. :D "I bought the car for 400 pounds, and took it to bits entirely, now I am buying 2500 pounds worth of rebuild kits, new parts, and virgin sheet metal, I look forward with pleasure to 1000 man hours or assembly and repair" |
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Whilst she is evil personified - never seen someone that bitter and twisted on reality TV before - she does look quite good in heels. |
and they arrived!
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psc369b1f4.jpg padding was minimal unfortunately- http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1d8c0b9e.jpg there are some slight weird areas, including what looks like a mistaken spot weld- http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9919e906.jpg the rear of the fender was damaged by the poor packing and rolled in a bit- http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps732afa70.jpg just about half the thickness of the stock material- http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9ef62dd8.jpg but honestly, not that bad. Body line definition is pretty close, they should make good source panels, the arches look identical, only slightly less sharp than stock on the lines- http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psfb763fb2.jpg Looking forward to seeing what the body guy has to say about them |
install pics-
Rusty fender arch- http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7c38830e.jpg removal of original panel- (reason for replacing the entire panel was to hide welding seams under the trim area) http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps50d230b8.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psfcc4e4fd.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psbdfbf01c.jpg klokkerholm panel installed- http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5d223c7a.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psb33f8c72.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8cc00a82.jpg bodyman's review- The panel is a decent quality and fits pretty well. The only problem area was where the red arrow points, that seam line did not line up with the door, and some manipulation of the panel had to happen to get it just right. Other small area was underneath, the panel did not curve up to hit the trunk floor fully, but not a big deal. In other words it wasn't tons of work trying to make the panel work, and this is a good choice for fixing the rusty wheel arches on the 123. |
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Search for "wheeler dealers w123" and you should find a weird subtitled version somewhere |
Regarding fender arches for W123. Some time back, when my rear driver side arch needed replacement, the local body shop that specializes in MB and Euro car repairs repaired my car using glue-on arches.
No welding required. It was something new for them too. Idea was to avoid the collateral rust that often occurs near weld. Anyone see this type of panel these days? |
Wheel Dealers airs on the Velocity Channel usually on Wednesday afternoon and evening. Re-runs normally start around 4:00 pm Pacific Standard Time. Great show.
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Recycled
Because I am working on my W123 1980 240D as time allows.
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I bought a set of W124 rear wheel arches from this same manufacturer, but haven't gotten to installing them yet. I will of course fully report on them when I eventually get to the project.
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Ha! Wheeler-Dealers.....
Cant keep me eyes off that guy's terrible Wig! Reminds me--I got two front fenders to replace before too long..... |
A note on patch panel metal thickness and body line definition. The maker is likely using soft tooling and / or hydroforming, this limits the thickness you can use and reduces sharpness of the body lines.
If hard 2 part tooling was being used, the price per part would be huge. The next panels I install will be glued. Also, where possible. Trim the patch to a minimum and retain as much original metal as possible. This allows for a 2nd repair in the future. If the seam is better suited to a body / trim line then using the full panel is preferable. |
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