Logitech Z-2300 Speaker Retrofit? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

EricSilver · #1 07-02-2007, 02:08 PM

Logitech Z-2300 Speakers
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Customer-reviews-for-Logitech-Z-2300-2-1-Speaker-System-970118-0403/sem/rpsm/oid/124077/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs

I heard these speakers and agree with the reviews: They sound better than most home systems, and Much better than Any car system. I am seriously tempted to retrofit these for my car, without touching my existing system

Possibilities:

SPEAKERS:
With the back of the their enclosures removed (but the fronts retained), it appears the midrange/ tweeter units will drop into the car’s rear speaker enclosures.

SUBWOOFER:
The subwoofer would go into the hollow space under the left rear passenger seat - - if it is at least 11.5 inches high, 11.5 inches deep, and and 15.5 inches wide.

A single 8-inch hole, or multiple smaller holes, could be cut into the front of the passenger seat frame. This would be done from within the frame, without having to cut through the carpet (because that is unnecessary).

MEDIA PLAYER:
The speakers would connect to an iPod, Zune or other mp3 device via an extension cable running through the car’s existing cable conduits, terminating inside the unused cell phone space in the armrest. The unit’s wired remote would follow the same path which, ideally, would run directly from the back seat, along the drive shaft tunnel, to the arm rest. The remote, and the mp3 player would, of course, be hidden inside the armrest.

POWER SUPPLY:
I have not figured out how to power the subwoofer.

The more I think of this, the less crazy it sounds. I would get the sound quality I want, without having to touch my existing radio/CD changer (which would still play through the front speakers).

Anyone ever do anything similar?

Dee8go · #2 07-02-2007, 03:28 PM

That's amazing. I would not expect much sound-wise from a computer peripheral manufacturer. Wouldn't you have to convert the voltage from 12 VDC to 120VAC in order to use these in your car?

EricSilver · #3 07-02-2007, 03:42 PM

Yes, I would need to hard-wire an inverter to the battery.

I was also shocked that they could sound so good. I wanted them for my computer and DVD player, but soon realized they had other potential applications.

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Originally Posted by Dee8go

That's amazing. I would not expect much sound-wise from a computer peripheral manufacturer. Wouldn't you have to convert the voltage from 12 VDC to 120VAC in order to use these in your car?

E320wagon'94 · #4 07-03-2007, 12:31 AM

I had logitech speakers in my dash for a while (2 pairs of 2" speakers) and they sounded really good (I was running them off my amp though, the original burnt out) It just put the impedance to wierd so I ended up switching to bostons, but that setup sounds like it should sound good.
-Zach

woodall33 · #5 07-03-2007, 01:43 AM

When you mention removing the back of the enclosure, you're not actually cutting into the enclosure itself and changing what air space that speaker is working in, are you? If so, you just shot any benefit of buying a prefab speaker setup like that. In most cases, manufactors like Logitech do not use a terribly highend driver, rather they design a fairly simple (yet efficient) enclosure that is tuned to the t/s parameters...which is 99.9% of the goodie in a premade package like that.

EricSilver · #6 07-03-2007, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodall33

When you mention removing the back of the enclosure, you're not actually cutting into the enclosure itself and changing what air space that speaker is working in, are you? If so, you just shot any benefit of buying a prefab speaker setup like that.

Very true. And it presents another option, simpler than what I had planned: Construct and attach a conical (or hemispherical) plastic enclosure behind the Existing rear speakers.

They are open to the trunk and sealing them would be easier than my original idea. The challenges would be 1.) molding a properly shaped/sized cone, and 2.) adequately sealing the speaker areas, both from behind, and around the sides.

If done properly, that should give my current rear speakers more punch.

woodall33 · #7 07-04-2007, 09:32 AM

Actually there are numerous aftermarket brands that offer IB (or free-air) speakers that would be ideal for the rear deck. They will give you "punch". The biggest factor is making sure you seal them off.

Also, I have a question. Why the emphasis on improving the speakers in the rear deck? I think when listening the to end product, you would be happier with putting the same effort into upgrading the fronts and using the rear deck or trunk for your low end.

E320wagon'94 · #8 07-04-2007, 12:42 PM

I agree with the above post. I think higher end stuff gets kinda overwhelming when you have any type of tweeter or high frequency drivers in the rear deck. A good set of full range driver (component or coax) with some mids in the rear should sound pretty full.
-Zach