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BodhiBenz1987 · #46 03-06-2012, 09:23 PM

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Yes, I fully understand, please forgive me. My Aunt just succumbed to cancer, I have been upset, and I have not been acting like a true Christian. Please understand! However, that is no excuse for MY immature, and foolish actions. Please forgive me!

No worries and of course forgiven ... as said, nothing wrong with sticking to your beliefs and sharing them. It's never my intention to offend others, but do like the freedom to be at least a wee bit crass now and then.

For whatever it's worth, I'm glad to see a young person with goals and dedication, especially to these fine automobiles.
Very sorry to hear about your aunt. Cancer is a horrible disease; that we can all agree on.

Back on subwoofers, I have a 12-inch Polk DB in a pre-made box with a 300w amp (which also has 4X75 for the speakers). It does not rattle the heck out of the car, and really you can't even hear it much outside the car. It adds a nice touch to pretty much anything I'm listening too, even if it's Rachmaninoff.

Thirdem · #47 03-06-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BodhiBenz1987

No worries and of course forgiven ... as said, nothing wrong with sticking to your beliefs and sharing them. It's never my intention to offend others, but do like the freedom to be at least a wee bit crass now and then.

For whatever it's worth, I'm glad to see a young person with goals and dedication, especially to these fine automobiles.
Very sorry to hear about your aunt. Cancer is a horrible disease; that we can all agree on.

Back on subwoofers, I have a 12-inch Polk DB in a pre-made box with a 300w amp (which also has 4X75 for the speakers). It does not rattle the heck out of the car, and really you can't even hear it much outside the car. It adds a nice touch to pretty much anything I'm listening too, even if it's Rachmaninoff.

Really?? I want a good sub that really adds boom inside, but not much outside. I myself cant stand when you can hear somebodies radio when they're a mile away.

BodhiBenz1987 · #48 03-06-2012, 10:00 PM

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Really?? I want a good sub that really adds boom inside, but not much outside. I myself cant stand when you can hear somebodies radio when they're a mile away.

I find the MB does a fine job of containing pretty much all the audio (and for that matter, keeping outside noise out). The only downside of putting the sub in the trunk is it does have to be fairly loud to be heard through the fuel tank, which is in between the trunk and cabin. But I can hear/feel the bass in the cabin area, then step outside and shut the door and not feel it outside. I also think having a sub to handle the bass allows the main speakers to better handle just the mid and lows and makes a nicer overall clarity.

anghrist · #49 03-06-2012, 10:32 PM

Easy answer is to find a nice W210 with the Bose system already in it. Or just retrofit that W210 system into your W124. A nice full sound without the dicey aftermarket issues.

Thirdem · #50 03-07-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BodhiBenz1987

I find the MB does a fine job of containing pretty much all the audio (and for that matter, keeping outside noise out). The only downside of putting the sub in the trunk is it does have to be fairly loud to be heard through the fuel tank, which is in between the trunk and cabin. But I can hear/feel the bass in the cabin area, then step outside and shut the door and not feel it outside. I also think having a sub to handle the bass allows the main speakers to better handle just the mid and lows and makes a nicer overall clarity.

I'm not too sure about the outside noise out. My car has no insulation or carpet, and I can hear EVERYTHING!

No, it is actually pretty quiet for not having carpet. Don't know why one of the PO took the carpet out though.

JamesDean · #51 03-07-2012, 12:31 PM

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Easy answer is to find a nice W210 with the Bose system already in it. Or just retrofit that W210 system into your W124. A nice full sound without the dicey aftermarket issues.

Thats a lot of work and not worth the effort.

In audiophile circles Bose products are looked down upon. Their speakers are often overpriced and lack full accurate sound response. I do have a few of them too as well as some vintage Avid 3-ways which put them to shame.

On top of that it would be 'aftermarket' because you'd end up customizing harnesses and what not to get everything to fit/work.

Far cheaper to just use aftermarket products. The Boston Acoustics speakers have been in my 190E for 11 years without any problems.

I've not had any 'dicey aftermarket issues.'

JamesDean · #52 03-07-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BodhiBenz1987

I find the MB does a fine job of containing pretty much all the audio (and for that matter, keeping outside noise out). The only downside of putting the sub in the trunk is it does have to be fairly loud to be heard through the fuel tank, which is in between the trunk and cabin. But I can hear/feel the bass in the cabin area, then step outside and shut the door and not feel it outside. I also think having a sub to handle the bass allows the main speakers to better handle just the mid and lows and makes a nicer overall clarity.

Yes this is true. That vertical fuel tank doesn't help transmit sound very much at all LOL. My friend has a Dodge Charger (pretty much open trunk to cabin) and he has a single 600w Alpine Type R driver. It sounds louder than my twin 12 1000w setup.

OP might want to consider applying sound deadening material to the trunk and door panels. Not only will it quite down inside road noise but it will keep the metal from vibrating and making that boom boom boom noise that we associate with cheap boom-box type cars.

I've used this stuff in the past. Its fairly cheap. I think I bought 96$ worth when it was on sale for $1.60. Came in two rolls. I still have the second roll.

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Thirdem · #53 03-07-2012, 02:27 PM

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Thats a lot of work and not worth the effort.

In audiophile circles Bose products are looked down upon. Their speakers are often overpriced and lack full accurate sound response. I do have a few of them too as well as some vintage Avid 3-ways which put them to shame.

On top of that it would be 'aftermarket' because you'd end up customizing harnesses and what not to get everything to fit/work.

Far cheaper to just use aftermarket products. The Boston Acoustics speakers have been in my 190E for 11 years without any problems.

I've not had any 'dicey aftermarket issues.'

Yeah, I plan on installing a nice Alpine system. I'm going to try to only spend about $600 though. I don't have money stashed around for stuff like that.Good idea on the sound deadener too!!

JamesDean · #54 03-07-2012, 02:37 PM

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Yeah, I plan on installing a nice Alpine system. I'm going to try to only spend about $600 though. I don't have money stashed around for stuff like that.Good idea on the sound deadener too!!

Personally, I think Pioneer headunits are better looking than Alpine units. I've been wanting put a MVH-P8300BT in the 190 but they don't make them anymore

Thirdem · #55 03-07-2012, 02:45 PM

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Personally, I think Pioneer headunits are better looking than Alpine units. I've been wanting put a MVH-P8300BT in the 190 but they don't make them anymore

See, I like the looks and quality of the Alpine stuff, but that is just an opinion. I want to get a nice subwoofer because my music doesn't sound right without the BOOM.

anghrist · #56 03-07-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

Thats a lot of work and not worth the effort.

In audiophile circles Bose products are looked down upon. Their speakers are often overpriced and lack full accurate sound response. I do have a few of them too as well as some vintage Avid 3-ways which put them to shame.

On top of that it would be 'aftermarket' because you'd end up customizing harnesses and what not to get everything to fit/work.

Far cheaper to just use aftermarket products. The Boston Acoustics speakers have been in my 190E for 11 years without any problems.

I've not had any 'dicey aftermarket issues.'

The easiest (not cheapest) answer is to buy the W210.

Thirdem · #57 03-07-2012, 03:51 PM

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The easiest (not cheapest) answer is to buy the W210.

Yeah, and those are nice cars!!

JamesDean · #58 03-07-2012, 04:11 PM

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The easiest (not cheapest) answer is to buy the W210.

I've never been a fan of the W210. Those headlights are hideous! The 210s look more feminine if you ask me.

The 124/126/201/140/129 cars all have a masculine look to them.

Thirdem · #59 03-07-2012, 04:49 PM

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I've never been a fan of the W210. Those headlights are hideous! The 210s look more feminine if you ask me.

The 124/126/201/140/129 cars all have a masculine look to them.

Oops! I was mixed up, I was thinking the W201. I am not really a fan of the W210. I don't hate them, but would rather a W129!

BodhiBenz1987 · #60 03-07-2012, 05:31 PM

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Personally, I think Pioneer headunits are better looking than Alpine units. I've been wanting put a MVH-P8300BT in the 190 but they don't make them anymore

I love the look of my Alpine iDA-X100, but I think I've rambled about it already in previous threads. You can even pick the backlighting color ... set mine to red to match my boost gauge. And it has a nice LCD screen that displays album art. But that's all a matter of taste.
Speakers, I went with Focals ... really sharp.