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Old 07-06-2003, 04:15 PM
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The first thing you want to do is order an M-class adapter from Becker. This will fit on car's harness and you'll solder it to the Alpine harness (supplied).

How much is the 9813? If you are buying it from Circuit City it is $399. The 9815 (much better) can be gotten cheaper elsewhere. I purchased it from www.indoaudio.com for about $375. I also ordered a Kenwood Woox from him and should be getting it shortly.

Once you get the m-class harness, you can solder it to the alpine harness. You'll need to run a red wire from the battery to the alpine harness as well... use a red wire. If you want to use the factory amp, you'll need to run a wire (blue?) from the amps to the alpine harness. I think I can give you more specific details later.

Go ahead and get the M-Class harness from Becker... you'll need it regardless of who is doing it so that less cutting is required.
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Old 07-06-2003, 06:19 PM
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Why does Cruthfields say that you don't need an installation kit for the Alpines in the E320, curious? From the Alpine catalog, the 9815 over the 9813 appears to be virtually the same except the 9815 includes the "i-personalize" which lets you custom adjust the player, download to a CD and upload to you player. Is there anything else, it has the same 60W x 4 V-drive amp. Baystereo.com has the 9815 for $328 and the 9813 for $258. Yeah, the 9813 cost $400 including installion at CCity. Thanks, wjm.
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Old 07-06-2003, 06:46 PM
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Wow... $328.... that's good.

I believe that the 9815 has an additional display line. That and it's blue vs green was the kicker for me.

You don't need an install kit. That is, if you splice wires. THey don't make a harness for our car, but I've done the investigating and found that the m-class adapter works great.
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Old 07-07-2003, 12:01 AM
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Ok, I'll get the m-class adapter. Where is it on the site? Or do I just call them up? Then what?
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Old 07-07-2003, 12:12 AM
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It's not on their site. Just call them and tell them what you want to do and tell them that you were told that the M-CLASS adapter will work for your application.

Once you get it, I'll try to tell you how things should wire up.
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Old 07-07-2003, 04:47 PM
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Willy, I pm'ed you.
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Old 07-07-2003, 05:16 PM
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Got it. Thanks.

Just turned on my PM notification. Had a bunch I never read.
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Old 07-07-2003, 06:28 PM
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Willy, got your spreadsheet, thanks for the layout. The A & B connectors are from the (becker)car wiring harness. You match the M-Class adpter to the car harness, splice the other wires to the Alpine connector. If you bypass the car amps, are you using the wires connecting through the amps but pulling the power leads to the amps? I thought the E320 has 6 speakers, so the rears and door speakers are split with their own crossovers? Thanks, edge.
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Old 07-07-2003, 08:12 PM
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Edge,

Again, the disclaimer is that this is how it is set up on my 94 E420. Sounds like I have the same # of speakers as you do.

On my app, I bypassed the amps by pulling the plugs from the amps. 1 amp is for the left speakers and one is for the right speakers. Test out your car by pulling out one plug to see if 1 side (channel) goes out.

On my car, the left front and left door speakers are tied together. All 3 rear speakers (on one side) are tied together.

Thus on each amp, there are 2 pairs of inputs (+ and -) and 2 outputs that need to be jumped.

I actually bought a harness at meijers and used that... but it was a bit messy.

If you want to use the factory amps, I think that you can cut wire #6 on each amp (that should be power) and then tie them both to the "REMOTE ON" wire from the alpine harness. If you just keep the amps plugged in as is (without bypass and without running wire fron "remote on"), then the amps will only power on when the antenna goes up (which is AM or FM mode).

By the way, there is a Radio Schematic on the service CDs. That's where I got all of the info I sent you on the spreadsheet.

BTW... just installed the BergWerks keyless entry system on my car. Had a couple of issues initially, but the folks at bergwerks got me through it just fine.

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<<If you want to use the factory amps, I think that you can cut wire #6 on each amp (that should be power) and then tie them both to the "REMOTE ON" wire from the alpine harness. If you just keep the amps plugged in as is (without bypass and without running wire fron "remote on"), then the amps will only power on when the antenna goes up (which is AM or FM mode).
By the way, there is a Radio Schematic on the service CDs. That's where I got all of the info I sent you on the spreadsheet.>>

WIlly, if I splice BEHIND the car harness, I won't need to purchase a M-class harness. I would like to bypass the car's amp's so I'll pull the power #6 to both amps and I won't bother to to tie them to the remote on (maybe thta's used by the Alpine remote). Do you think this method would use the car's speaker wires (without power to the car's amps). I really don't want to rewire speaker wires throughout the car. I was at CCity yesterday and they want $80 labor to rewire speaker wire and $30 for the speaker wire. BTW, I could find anything about the stereo wiring on the W124 CD-Rom, which heading is it under? How about the head unit brackets, will the Alpine slide in there easily? Many thanks....Edge.
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Old 07-08-2003, 10:15 AM
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WAIT... NO.

If you don't want to use the factory amps, then you need to unplug them AND THEN run jumpers between the inputs and outputs. That's the only way without rewiring the car and it's how I did it. No need to cut #6.

Also, getting the mclass adapter just makes things TONS easier. You can splice or solder the wires together outside of the car on a table and them plug it in.

I will look for the .PDF on the wiring and send to you.... or give you the location
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Sorry to Interupt

But,

WJM, will your recomendations work for a '96 W210? It has the same stereo, although I think the bass is better in it than it was in my '95 W124. Not sure why.

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Old 07-08-2003, 10:34 AM
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Deuce,

I'm really not sure.

If the 1996 has the same stereo (and I know that is has the same harness), then the MCLASS adapter should work.

See if you have 2 amps in the car. If so, unplug 1 and see if one side of the car goes off. It could be that the wiring is the same.

Edge,

About getting the unit into the opening... not much problem. You put the bracket in first... it self clamps... and then slide in the radio. Hardest part is moving all the wires back deep enough. I did that and still had to push with a bit of force to get it to lock in.
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Old 07-08-2003, 11:08 AM
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<<Also, getting the mclass adapter just makes things TONS easier. You can splice or solder the wires together outside of the car on a table and them plug it in.>>

Yeah you're right, that make alot sense. Good to listen to experience on the board.
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Where would I find the amps? I don't have (and can't find) the service CD's for the 210.

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