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Old 08-02-1999, 06:48 PM
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Hello, folks.

Just came across the following link that answered many questions I had concerning upkeep of vinyl/rubber stuff in cars.
(Was trying to find out more about Lexol Vinylex.)
http://www.eskimo.com/~dalus/bmw/all/carcare/all_dont_use_silicone.html

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Old 08-03-1999, 02:02 PM
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Lee,

I'm curious and I value your input. Do you agree with the article on this link? Are all silicone-based products harmful to rubber and vinyl? If so, why are there so many of them and why are they so popular?

Pete
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Old 08-03-1999, 02:16 PM
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Was wanting to make sure (just for myself) before applying anything to a still-new-condition dash top on my 81 SD. They're expensive to replace.
Lexol Vinylex is what I'll go with instead of Armorall-type products.

Plus here's a reply from Metricman (member) to my inadvertant post in the Tech Help section.
"a few friends of mine studied 'Armour All' at college in their engineering class a discovered that the moisture (and oils) were brought to the surface, there-by drying out the dashboard in the long term...now that was 25 years ago..."

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Old 08-03-1999, 02:49 PM
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After reading the article I would agree with most everything he said. Although I am not familiar with all the products he mentioned, that individual matched my "impressions" of the products I was familiair with. (both good and bad) You might want to tell him Vinylex works on tires too...

In any case, this should just strengthen the resolve to never use silicone based products for dash, tires, leather seats (scary what you see people do sometimes), etc. As for why they are so popular? There are many whom think they are saving money be saving $1-2 on a car care product that will end up shortening the life of a part of their car which can cost hundreds or thousands. There are those for whom pricepoint is all and quality is secondary. Plus there are those who just don't know any better and like everything shiny as hell. The old wives tale of polished&shiny = clean/good condition/etc may also have some pull.

Hope this helps...Lee
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Old 08-03-1999, 07:17 PM
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I just found the Lexol vinylex home page. They are located at http://vinylex.net/unique.htm

Their page "What makes Vinylex unique" contains the following statement. "VINYLEX® contains a unique patented composition of silicone and organo functional silicone specifically designed to provide the desired performance and appearance along with special emulsifiers that cause the formula to break on application. This release (break) on application contributes to the performance of the composition and facilitates the proper distribution of VINYLEX® ingredients." Does anyone know how this differs from the silicone in other products? Am I missing something obvious here?



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Old 08-04-1999, 01:46 AM
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Without having detailed chemical analasis of all products in question on hand I would suspect the difference is similar to 93 octane unleaded vs crude oil. I cannot say for certain. What I do know is that the low grade silicone products such as Armor All seem to do more harm than good. Vinylex not only looks great but seems to work and really protect. Its results can't be argued with, at least in my experience.

Lee
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Old 08-04-1999, 10:33 AM
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Just wanted to add, but not as an expert, that a lot of folks who never had to contemplate the consequences of using the wrong (which is not the same as bad) product have gone with ArmorAll-like products becuase that's what they're familiar with. I never thought about the differences in various protectants until joining various MB user groups. Not neccesarily a cost cutting habit but a lack of information. Some of these "better" products are not advertised heavily and are not displayed at most larger auto parts stores.
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Old 08-04-1999, 11:10 AM
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I have used Armor All on the dashboard of my 83 240D since new. The car has spent more than half of its life out of a garage(at night and during work). I thought the reason the dashboard didn't crack was the weekly applications of Armor All. Now I use Lexol products. But only because I don't like the super shine Armor All gives and not because of any problems.
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