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Old 09-09-1999, 03:58 AM
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What brand do people recommend?

I have seen the Meguiars promo for theirs on the web site. I rang the distributors in Australia and they told me the following.

Price AUD$500 approx
They tried it.
Did not recommend it.
Suggested a different brand which is much cheaper and are sending me some info.



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Old 09-09-1999, 07:17 PM
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The Meguiars Dual Action (D.A.) Polisher is made by Porter-Cable. It has 3.7 amps and variable speed. You can also buy the Porter-Cable:
7424 Random Orbit Polisher
7335 Random Orbit Sander
7336 Random Orbit Sander.
You can get the Sanders at some hardware stores and change the backing plate.

Then buy the Meguiars 6.5 inch:
W64DA Dual Action Polisher Backing Plate
W-7006 Softbuff Foam Cutting Pads
W-8006 Softbuff Foam Polishing Pads
W-9006 Softbuff Foam Finishing Pads

Go to www.coastaltool.com and buy the 7424 for $139.00 US/$212 AUD (you will still need the the W64DA becuase the plate/pad that comes with the 7424 is not velcro to accept the better Meguiars pads). Also go to www.imparts.com they sell the buffer/sander with the W64DA for $199 and stock some of the Meguiars pads. The pads and plate can be purchased direct from Meguiars also.

I highly recommend the Porter-Cable Random Orbit Polisher/Sander. I use it on my 1998 E430 (Obsidian Black) and the results help keep my car looking extremely well, like from a Detail Shop. My next door neighbor is amazed at the results, the shine and absense of swirl marks. A neighbor up the street with a Dark Green 1998 E320 loved the results on my car he purchased the Porter-Cable also. I use the buffer mainly for removing minor scratches, smudges and for applying polish and wax. It is best to remove the product from the car with towels, not the buffer pads. Hope this helps!

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Old 09-10-1999, 01:01 AM
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Marty:

Se my postings under " 1st Waxing " in this column

I bought a Simonize Orbital polisher for $60.00 Canadian, comes with a foam applicator, 2 terry cloth pads and 1 woolskin pad.

I have a black 300, and it looks amazing now, no swirl marks period.

I still cant believe how well it turned out, although it took three days to do it!

But I dont know if you can buy this polisher where you are.

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Thankyou for the replies.
At least now I have more options to investigate.

Martin
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Old 09-10-1999, 07:51 AM
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Sears also has a line of orbital buffers in several prices and sizes all for under $100 (US) or so. Pep Boys carries a number of accessories (foam and terry bonnets, etc.) that will fit these as well. As usual with Sears, you can buy repair parts on line when you need them, but you just missed the Labor Day sale. Oh yes, they work well, too.
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Old 09-12-1999, 03:02 AM
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The Porter-Cable Polisher/Meguiars Foam Pad System mentioned in post # 2 is made for serious and meticulous paint preparation and finish enthusiasts. I compared various orbital buffers prior to buying the Porter-Cable. I looked at the entire lineup at Sears and other brands like Waxmaster found at Trak-Auto, Pep-Boys and Wal-Mart. The deciding factors are:

1) the power - 3.7 AMPS
2) the speed - 2500 to 6000 rpm
3) Meguiar pads compatibility

High speed/power is needed for cutting out fine scratches, surface cleaning and polishing the paint, not just buffing the wax. The other polishers brands have only .5, .8 or the maximun of 1.0 AMPS. Sears had a huge and ungainly 9/10 inch model for about $99 which they called Professional that only had either .8 or 1.0 AMPS. The Porter-Cable retails for about $250 but can be found for $139 at:
www.coastaltool.com and www.builderscentral.com

The cost of the P-C at $139 is equivalent to some Detail Shop Wash/Wax and machine buff specials.
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Old 09-13-1999, 02:13 AM
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The Meguiar's/Porter Cable buffer IS the best bet. About any orbital can work well though. Stick with the Meguiar's/PC version, considering how important (and valuable) the finish of your car is, it does not make sense to scrimp on that.

Hope this helps...Lee
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It seems that the Porter Cable orbital buffer is the way to go. Since it is an orbital buffer, is there the potential problem of paint burn through that I have always been warned about when using a buffer? If not, do you still need to be more careful at the edges of the hood etc.

Finally, I have a 1983 300D and a 1998 E320 with very different paint used from the factory. Do they require different buffing procedures?
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Bob,
Random orbital buffers are not really as dangerous as you describe. The classic rotary buffer can burn the paint as you described in the wrong hands. As long as you use a random orbital buffer with 100% cotton pads you should be just fine.

Hope this helps...Lee
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Old 09-20-1999, 12:02 AM
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ORBITAL BUFFER TRAINING: Go to the online clinics at Meguiars web site www.meguiars.com . There is a training session called "Power Polishing Clinic". Rotary buffers are for pros and Orbital buffers are for us backyard buffers.
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Old 09-28-1999, 08:09 AM
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Tanx for the replies.
Meguiars in Australia do not import the Meguiars Buffer but recommend the Hitachi Z Series random orbital buffer which they use in house.

Has anyone used these?

Martin
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Old 09-28-1999, 02:43 PM
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Marty,
I am not familiar with that model. Most any random orbital buffer will work. What makes for better/best is durability record, ergonomics, and a wide array of available pads/applicators. The Porter-Cable unit could probably be ordered if you want a proven unit. I'm sure the Hitachi will work, but I don't know much else about it so who knows how it works. If it is approved or recommended by Meguiar's it probably is up to snuff quality wise... Did Meguiar's of Austrailia mention its compadibility with other pads/applicators or does it have its own line?

Hope this helps...Lee
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Old 09-29-1999, 08:16 AM
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I believe it uses Meguiars pads.
But before I buy it, I shall make sure of which brand and type that they supply.

Tanx for all the info and help.

Marty

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