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TheDon 12-20-2005 01:19 PM

i hate w123 interior wood trim
 
im bought some 3m double sided mounting tape to see if i could get my glove box trim and the center horizontal thin strip to stick down.. nope only got one side of the glove box to.. i cleaned the center strip surface with rubbing alcohol and the back of the wood.. i took the metal bracket off as it is screwed up.. not from me but the lil tabs are all bent out of shape.. i think for that center piece ill liquid nail the wood to the metal or jb weld it and then use the double stick tape on the bracket.. but the glove box is a PITA one side is fine but the other one just isnt working

anyone? ideas?

TX76513 12-20-2005 01:23 PM

Double sided tape did not give me the result that I wanted. The tape raises the trim and produces and un-even result. After trying many things like yourself, Gorilla Glue was the last adhesive used and it’s adhered so far with 6+ months behind me

TheDon 12-20-2005 01:30 PM

ill get some of that.. maybe wally world will have it.. and some clamps

ksing44 12-20-2005 02:54 PM

Super Glue Gel is good stuff
 
I had good results with the super glue gel. I didn’t do it for the wood trim. I used it to glue down the peeling MBTex on the door pockets of 1995 E320. If that glue can hold MBTex, that desperately wants to peel from the lip of my pockets, then I bet it can hold anything. One very good thing about the super glue, it is not affected by the heat, so it does not turn into a gooey mess in the summertime.

TheDon 12-20-2005 03:09 PM

super glue gel? what is that.. is it like crazy glue but in gel form

phidauex 12-20-2005 04:46 PM

Super Glue Gel is good stuff, its just a gellied cyanoacrylate glue, which makes it a little easier to apply in close locations.

For tiny stuff, I like the super glue, but for bigger things, I really love gorilla glue. Its a moisture curing polyurethane which is tough as all bejeezus. The great thing about it (and tricky thing, if you aren't careful) is that expands about 1.5 times as it cures. This is good, because it shoves itself into all the little cracks and voids, and improves the bond, but it can be bad, because if you over apply it, it will squeeze out the sides and lift parts up.

The best way to use it is to moisten one surface lightly, and then put a verry thin coat of glue on the other side. Then clamp the two pieces together for a few hours. The clamp will help prevent the glue from lifting, and will create a stronger bond (because the glue can force itself into more little voids and cracks.

I used it to reattach a metal backing plate to the wood trim (the one over the light switch), and its held for over a year with no sign of release or degredation. That urethane stuff should outlast the rest of the car.

peace,
sam

TheDon 12-20-2005 04:49 PM

yea i think ill get gorrilla glue.. i called ace and they have it.. gorilla glue's website says my autozone has it but i called and nope he couldnt find any

TheDon 12-21-2005 12:32 PM

got some gorilla glue and now waiting for it to do its thing

Levon's 123 12-21-2005 03:39 PM

The glue guy...
 
I am sure you guy's are real nice guys - but I wonder about your glue thing. I could say a lot about adhesives - Just where do you want to go with that? I have a MB 123 - and I had the exact same problem - the strip on the glove box. I do like super glue gel - but only for very small stuff, a small piece of broken plastic or something. Any super glue is not used for any big glue jobs - have you ever seen it sold in quarts? Or even a bottle? NO! Just dinky little tubes used for applying a drop of glue. For that, it is great, and you don't even have to hold it together long... It is good for glueing cuts (skin) back together, by the way. Anyway, I didn't want the strip on my glovebox to EVER come off again so I used MANLEY glue - Epoxy! The 7000 year glue. Never again in anyone's son's lifetime with that ever move. The problem with that is execution. Mix the right additive, make it kinda pasty, and DON'T make a mistake - no excess anywhere, wood squished in perfectly in position. --- If you glue anything right, execution is vital - or you become less than professional overnight. Of course if you used good glue and made a mistake, you are glued - kinda like screwed... You won't be able to take it apart. For the average person, I would recommend cleaning everything well, and carefully putting a THIN amount of clear silicone adhesive on the wood, with just half a smidgen more right in the middle of the wood, in a row of LITTLE dots, smooching in into place carefully, and removing any excess by scraping gently with a pointed knife and a number of paper towels to wipe the knife with each stroke, and clamping and or weighting or pressing the wood perfectly into place overnight. If there is any residue visible, you should be able to carefully and gently cut and scrape it with a razorblade until it looks like new. Unless of course, you glued it on twisted or something... Many glues are not approporate for this job, because there can be mosture in the car, which will break down in time. Adhesives that remind you of rubber will also break down in time, I think that is what MB used in the first place... Gorilla glue is WOOD glue, sure they will sell it to you for use on anything, THEY want to sell glue! It is really for dry, indoor wood... I don't like it much, it is just a bit better than the 'Elmer's' that we all used in grade school to stick our snowflakes to our mum's Christmas Cards... ~Levon~:)

TheDon 12-21-2005 04:49 PM

im done interior looks so much better ..

you know that lil vent like thning that sits in the middle of the dash.. i have no idea what it is but it had like a resistor in it and lil circuit board.. so i just pushed that stuff down outa the way so that vent thing would sit flush unlike it was before and glued it down

im glue happy eh i started and shut the car off to make sure it would do so i know i just glued stuff and moved that thing but gotta check anyways

engatwork 12-21-2005 07:51 PM

That vent thing in the center of the dash is the inside temp sensor. Don't mess it up.

TheDon 12-21-2005 08:03 PM

..... well then ill just fix it so the temp sensor it in the lil tube it should be in.. the lil plastic trim vent was all ppping up so i fixed it like i said above.. tomorrow ill go back and fix it

J. R. B. 12-21-2005 09:33 PM

As long as you are under there you should check to see if the foam hose that connects the temp sensor to the other hose is deteriorated. If it is your heater/airconditioner won't work properly. If it is shot or gone altogether go buy some foam water pipe insulation to use in it's place. I believe I used the half inch stuff. And may your hands be smaller than mine so you can get in there to fix it.:P

TheDon 12-21-2005 09:38 PM

its more of a feel thing.. i cant see at all but ill give it a try and feel

Ted_Grozier 01-05-2006 08:41 PM

for wood trim, one glue works
 
I'm not the biggest fan of special fluids etc but you should give the factory glue a try. It works for 20 years, right?

It's a contact adhesive that comes in a can with a brush. Clean both surfaces, apply a coat to each, let dry and then press together. It's called Spezial-Kleber ("Special Glue") and the part number is A 000 989 92 71. I bought a 12 oz can about five years ago at the dealer and it was pricey ($25) but worked great!

Ted


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