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Old 02-12-2006, 04:31 PM
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What is the best wax to use?

I was at the store yesterday, and I noticed that just meguires made a handful of waxes. I was noticed that they made a NXT, a 3 Step process, a Gold class, and that was not even all of them! I was kind of leaning towards the theree step process as, I would hope that it would yield the best results with three times as much work! What would you recommend? Thanks for any information.
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Old 02-12-2006, 05:20 PM
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best wax

Dear NH500SL,

There are many fine wax products on the market. My son and I run a small detail business for high-end cars and we only use P21S wax...this product, is the best we have ever used...you can find there products by just typing in P21s car care products and you can choose who has the best price. As for our garage queens, a 66 mustang coupe, a 78 Alfa Spider Veloce and our recent accuisition a 91 MB 300CE coupe we only use the P21S paint work cleaner. This is an ultra fine polish that gives a deep luster...no wax touches these cars. However they spend most of the time in the garage. If you drive your cars a great deal or park them outside, I would suggest preping the paint with the polish and then apply the wax. We have tried many products an this is by far the best we have found...a bit pricey but well worth it as it goes on and comes off like a dream and leave no residue...hope this helps...for alternative you could try Zymol or Griot's Garage Best of Show Wax...both fine products.

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Old 02-13-2006, 12:23 PM
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I was at the store yesterday, and I noticed that just meguires made a handful of waxes. I was noticed that they made a NXT, a 3 Step process, a Gold class, and that was not even all of them! I was kind of leaning towards the theree step process as, I would hope that it would yield the best results with three times as much work! What would you recommend? Thanks for any information.
We have discussed they way to detail your car several times on the forum. You can do a search at the top of the page. Or better yet check Lee's detailing fact in the DIY section here...

http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/LeesDetailingFaq
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Old 02-13-2006, 12:47 PM
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Old 02-19-2006, 03:45 PM
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out with the wax 1/2

Going back more years than I care to mention, I bought a franchise and set off on my lucrative detailing business.. Not really realizing what I was getting for my franchise fee immediately I forged ahead with the propriatary chemicals I was endowed with. I actually learned a lot and made a few bucks also. I was based in the northeast and I managed to do a lot of dealer work including high end autos as Ferrari's Aston's and Benzes.. Anyway here's what I learned, under a microscope unprotected paint is actually jagged not flat. Once your protective coating burns off, in most cases even 2 hrs after waxing the paint is in a unprotected state and dirt gets into the fine pour of your paint and stays there until you wash the auto again...What wax does is creates a smooth surface on the paint and nothing can catch onto the paint, problem is wax has a very low burn off rate.. You can witness this by looking at your car after a rain and noticing all of the dirt droplets on your exterior. Also ever see all those fine hair scratches and wonder where they came from? Well, even dust is an abrasive and even when you handwash the auto that abrasive scratches the clearcoat...>>>>>>>>>>>> 1/2
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Old 02-19-2006, 03:59 PM
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so what to do ?...Here's what I did and believe it or not it worked...I used a two stage product...because it was a franchise I got the material generically packed but later tracked it down to the MFG.. Part one was to wash the auto off in the shade WITHOUT any soap, glove, towel or any rubbing the car paint..just plain old fashion water, a lot of it..Of course I used any tar remover or any heavy cleaning BEFORE applying the two stage finish.. First stage was a chemical pre-treat cleaner, in essence a compound with no grit..You wouldn't believe even on a "clean" car how it lifted the embeded dirt from the paints pores...then and ONLY in the shade, on a "cool to the touch" auto, I would apply the liquid teflon coating that left the car with a deep rich finish and it even covered most of those swirls that those bodyshop types love putting in your car with a high speed wheel..I was a skeptic at first, but I tell you this stuff had a very high burn off point, it was initially designed for the airline industy to create less drag on planes. I would guarantee unconditionally that one would not have to wax there car again for a period of one year. In the winter I would start my car and run the heat and within 15 minutes most of all the snow would just slide off the car, much like an egg in that black frying pan...This stuff would leave black cars looking like an onyx when done but remember NEVER apply it in the sun..If it dried (about 15 mins) before getting it off the paint it would not be fun to remove, so one panel at a time recommended..I think I can track down the name of the distributor and will post that info for anyone interested....

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Old 02-19-2006, 06:21 PM
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Hammertime please look that up. I am certainly interested for my 23 year old Texas paint.
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Old 02-19-2006, 06:53 PM
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Thumbs up Better than any wax out there...

I tracked the product down to Gem Industries....
here they will give you more information about the product;;;
Check the link here:
http://www.gem-industries.com/chemicals.php

However they sell through distributors like:
http://www.wholesalecarcare.com
the stuff is called (AT-5)...

Also you do not need the orbital polisher, it helps if your doing volume for dealers but I always got the best results with time, patience and hand application. Don't skip the pre-treatment cleaner, this is key to a great finish.

Keep it in the shade..good luck
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Old 02-19-2006, 07:06 PM
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I will attempt this in the spring, I'll post back then with my results.
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Old 02-19-2006, 07:31 PM
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better than wax....

FYI...try the pre-treat on a clean bonnet or towel on the lower quarter panel or somewhere out of sight..If the towel comes up with an excessive amount of paint then be careful, there is no clearcoat paint on the car and you can go throuh the paint down to the primer quickly... This stuff is great but you have to be realistic about the results expected...there is some paint that just will not come back due to years of neglect and exposure to the elements.. in most cases this stuff gets better results than ordinary over the counter products...I have brought back many a misery of auto paint jobs in my years of doing it proffesionally but sometimes it is a lost cause altogether...only you can judge for yourself...
waxa on...waxa off
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