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Old 07-24-2006, 09:58 PM
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New Lite Headlight lens restorer

This is actually for my daughter's Honda. Has anyone tried this stuff?
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Old 07-27-2006, 05:17 PM
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Never heard of it before

I've never heard of it before, but since you mentioned it, I went outside and looked at the ones on my Lincoln. Maybe I'll try some of it. If you do in the meantime, let me know what you think of it. Mine look pretty bad.
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Old 07-27-2006, 06:37 PM
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On the Mequir's forum they say that mild oxidation on headlight lens material cleans up nicely with just a random orbital buffer and PlastX, while heavier pitting sequires light sanding with 1500 grit, followed by 3000 grit, then PlastX.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8011&highlight=plastic+headlight

BTW, Mequirs sandpapers supposedly have a more uniform average grit than most other brands, so that 1500 grit is an average of grit sizes that are more consistent (less likely to have large scratchy particles).

Some of the most nasty yellowing and oxidation described in a diffeent thread at the Mequirs forum site describe starting with 600 grit.

The PlastX has diminishing abrasives - get emaller as you work them, so they do less scratching then other polishes/scratch removers. I have taken fine scratches out of the wood shifter panel using PlastX.
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Old 07-28-2006, 06:44 AM
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The hazing and discoloration on my headlights is apparently on the inside of the housing. You seem to be referring to the outside surface. I haven't done anything more than to just glance at it. I'll take them apart this weekend.
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Old 08-28-2006, 05:51 PM
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headlight cleaning

The photos are of the headlights of a friend's truck who lives on the beach in NJ. The headlights were a hazy yellow. I wet sanded the lens with 1500 grit sandpaper, then with 2000 grit, next I used a buffer with polishing compound and finished with a coat of wax. The photos show before and after.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:42 AM
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On the Mequir's forum they say that mild oxidation on headlight lens material cleans up nicely with just a random orbital buffer and PlastX, while heavier pitting sequires light sanding with 1500 grit, followed by 3000 grit, then PlastX.
Don't do it! There's a thin hard coating on these lights, thickness is only between 1.7-2.4mm.

I was looking for some way to remove the haze on my lights. First approach was Rain-X (which actually accelerates deterioration of plastic; i.e., Don't use it !

New Lite described a technique in his patent, US Patent 6,984,612
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6984612. PN.&OS=PN/6984612&RS=PN/6984612

... but use abrasives! Back the coating, the problem with abrasives is that they remove a hard coating on the headlight lens. Another idea proposed in US Patent 6,984,612 was the use of dilute varnish and/or acrylic urethane paint. ("a mixture of 53% 56% mineral spirits, 1% 3% butanol, and gloss spar varnish and/or acrylic urethane")

At TDI Fest '06, someone suggested high quality lens polish from a Harley Davidson shop for the side "relay" markers. This got me thinking, typically a dangerous activity...

I stopped at a supermarket, picked up a bottle of acrylic floor wax ("Future Wax"). Grabbed a paper towel and applied the stuff to the lens. This seemed to work. Then I applied the same to the VW's "relay" side markers which were frosted white and beginning to look yellowed. The result was instantaneous clear. IT WORKED!

Now that they finally came in from Europe, I'll do the "Valeo Replacement" treatment, which will have the lights looking like glass lensed Valeo (Cibie) lights, black surrounds, and even change the pattern to E-code. If done right, it even makes foglights appear.

But meantime I got "replacement" side markers for $8. (or whatever the acrylic wax cost me), along with some buffing of the taillights and bumper markers. (Maybe if I mix some used motor oil in the stuff, I'd get a smoked tint.)

The advantage of RainX is that it probably makes a good surface prep for the acrylic floor wax. I'd suggest household cleaner, however.


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This is actually for my daughter's Honda. Has anyone tried this stuff?
Thanks, Dan

http://www.mdwholesale.com/
A lot of people have tried it, they make 100% TCA skin peel also.
They have become somewhat of a urban legend on ebay.
I would not risk what happened to other people who did business with him, happening to me.

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Old 11-05-2007, 10:17 AM
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Perma Tex sells a kit like that. I bought one at Advanced Auto. I think it was $15. It has four grits of sand paper, wet/dry closed coat, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500. Also has a cloth and some polishing liquid. I haven't used the one I bought yet. I was ove at the neighbors. He works as a mechcanic at a dealership and does some at home. It was an older neon. He polished one headlight to almost new. THe other he polished, didn't look at good. He used some other kit, he bought at the dealership.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:08 AM
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Really all these lens restore products are nothing special. I would recommend sanding them down then compounding them via machine or sand them down to 3k grit and a lot of elbow grease if you don't know how to use a machine, which most people don't know how to correctly use one. starting at 1500 is not a cure for every lens, I have seen many cases where as aggressive as 6-800 grit was needed for full correction. then from there work your way up to 1k 1200 1500 2k 2500 3k, that is the best way to ensure a high quality complete restore, you can definitely tell the difference between that job and simply 1500 then polished.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:16 PM
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Angry Best Headlight Cleaner - MD Wholesale Does Not Work

Please avoid MD Products Headlight cleaner and save yourself enormous aggravation and a waste of money.

If you spend $15.95 from their web site or $10.95 to $15.95 using eBay you will get a small plastic envelope with 2 blue gas station type windshield paper towels, a cheap latex glove (1 only) and three tiny 2 oz bottles of a supposedly patented set of liquids that look a lot like detergent and a mild plastic polish.

A concerted effort to use the products as advertised (several times) yielded no results.

Any attempt to contact David Maille resulted in nothing. Nothing from using his website to contact (mdwholesale.com) nothing from emails directly to him (dmaille@mdwholesale.com) and nothing yet from a postal letter sent.

The website posted in the above posting says it best. He's taking money and providing aggravation in exchange.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:16 PM
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From Flagstaff,AZ NAPA, I got this polyhog kit

http://www.accupressurecaps.com/products.asp?product_id=POLYHOG01

they are from Durango,CO.

It worked excellent on my girlfriends honda. Still clear 6 months now. Id recommend the polyhog on a honda lense. It helped her see much better.
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