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blau 12-30-2006 02:22 AM

Is there such things as a quality dark wax.
 
I have a black car. It has many less than pin size nicks and scratches (the large paint chips are reparied). I normally use Mcguire wax product on my cars. On this vehical when I used Mcguire cleaner/wax I notice that if I don't polish carefully I can leave a lot of white marks on the vehical that does not come off easily.

I was thinking if only this wax is dark color it will solve my pin size nicks/scratchs.

I know there are color waxes, out there. I have the one madel by turtle. But that is not a quality hard wax. It just seem that they rub right off exposing the nicks and scratches.

Any recomendations. I have seen a 3M wax lable for dark cars. But beyond just reading the lable I know nothing about it.

Any help would be nice.

thanks

happy new year.

Ethan 12-30-2006 06:37 PM

thats a really good question, I personally don't think colored waxes are very effective for serious detailers, I would guess really high quality wax buffs to a clear hard coating for ideal performance.

My experience has been that Griots Garage and P21 Carnuba paste wax don't dry and leave white chalky residue as much as Meguiar's paste wax. When I use Zaino I also don't get residue. I am starting to investigate and like Liquid Glass because it seems to offer everything Zaino does but much simpler.

A damp cloth and some liquid quick detailer is recommended for hitting white residue, but for me it seems the residue dosen't seem to appear until a couple of days after I wax.

On my black car and because of the way I drive and where i live stone chips are common - I look at them as a badge of honor, touch up paint sometimes and sometimes I won't bother to use touch up but rather keep everything well waxed to never worry about corrosion.

suginami 12-30-2006 07:13 PM

I have attended many detailing classes held at Meguiar's head office in Irvine, California.

They have a test panel, painted black, where products are tested to see how they add gloss or deepen the color of the paint.

When they came up with NXT tech wax, we compared that with Gold Class, the cleaner wax in the red bottle, and several competitors products.

The test was a blind test.

The results were amazing and nearly unanimous.

Meguiar's NXT tech wax made the black paint deeper, darker, and glossier than any other product.

Meguiar's Gold class was a close second, but still some people liked the Gold class over the NXT.

None of the competitors products came close, and I won't mention their names.

So, for black paint, there is no product that I would better recommend than Meguiar's NXT tech wax.

Also, since it is a polymer product, it wipes off incredibly easy - easier than any carnuba product you have ever used.

Further, polymer products provide significantly better protection than a carnuba wax.

Last, if you ever have trouble removing wax, you have committed one of two mistakes (or both):

You applied the product in the sun or when the surface was still too hot.

and / or

You applied too much product. Remember that thinner is better. You want to apply a very thin coat. If you apply too much, you are basically waxing your wax, not waxing your paint.

Monomer 12-30-2006 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suginami (Post 1372495)
I have attended many detailing classes held at Meguiar's head office in Irvine, California.

They have a test panel, painted black, where products are tested to see how they add gloss or deepen the color of the paint.

When they came up with NXT tech wax, we compared that with Gold Class, the cleaner wax in the red bottle, and several competitors products.

The test was a blind test.

The results were amazing and nearly unanimous.

Meguiar's NXT tech wax made the black paint deeper, darker, and glossier than any other product.

Meguiar's Gold class was a close second, but still some people liked the Gold class over the NXT.

None of the competitors products came close, and I won't mention their names.

So, for black paint, there is no product that I would better recommend than Meguiar's NXT tech wax.

Also, since it is a polymer product, it wipes off incredibly easy - easier than any carnuba product you have ever used.

Further, polymer products provide significantly better protection than a carnuba wax.

Last, if you ever have trouble removing wax, you have committed one of two mistakes (or both):

You applied the product in the sun or when the surface was still too hot.

and / or

You applied too much product. Remember that thinner is better. You want to apply a very thin coat. If you apply too much, you are basically waxing your wax, not waxing your paint.


but


theirs much more than several other waxes out there.

I like Diamond shine/flitz stuff.

yal 12-30-2006 09:32 PM

Some of Meguiars and 3M waxes leave white residue on trim. They also dry white inside paint nicks. Not all though. If you want to stick with Meguiars try their number #21 or #20 synthetic waxes. No white residue.

Personally I would get someone to fix the scratches you have with a rotary or Dual action polisher.

redassag00 12-31-2006 01:39 AM

I use NXT on the SDL as well as the Marauder. People on the marauder board like the Zaino, but after applying NXT, which is so easy they switch. If I had a car that was outside, I like Nufinish cause it lasts so long. NXT shines great but doesn't bead after like 4 car washes. Which I know, doesnt mean the wax is not working anymore, but the old school way is, if its not beading, time for another coat!

I wax 4X a year on the SDL anyway, so its not a big deal.

yal 12-31-2006 03:53 PM

NXT is designed to sheet after a few washes. Meguiars #21 which is based on NXT does the same thing. You can email Meguiars and they will confirm that for you. So it seems in this case beading doesn't mean a thing. Sheeting is desirable because the water doesn't sit on the car possibly causing water spots.

If beading is your thing then try Collinite 845 (Insulator Wax) or Blitz one grand, they offer exceptional beading, good durability and ease of use.

Veloce300DT 01-10-2007 07:46 PM

NXT offers the best shine, depth, and gloss for the price. It really boldens dark colors and conceals light surface spider-web micro-scratches. No white residue.

However, I have also used Zaino and while it is a little more labor-intensive than NXT the rusults are well worth it... It makes my paint 10 times richer looking and the gloss is insane. It also conceals spider-web micro-scratches and is super durable. No white residue. I have also noticed that the Zaino lasts longer and retains its boldness and gloss longer than the NXT wax.

I reccomend them both!

NXT- Super easy application, super deep gloss and richness. The best over the counter wax by far, esp when used as a follow up coat over Meguiars Color-X.

Zaino- More involved, but offers same visual qualities as NXT but even more gloss and depth (at least from my experience).

Bob G 01-13-2007 06:14 AM

You canot go wrong with the waxes and polishes mentioned on this forum. For more intense information go to www.autopia.org or wwwproperautocare.com.
Taking the time to do the job right is an above average result to a beautifull looking automobile.

Bob Geco


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