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Old 03-15-2003, 08:24 PM
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Question McGuire's Cleaner Wax follow up

Hello all:

I plan to use McGuire's cleaner wax on my E-320 to remove what this winter's salt has done to the exterior. Do I need to apply a wax afterward or is the cleaner wax enough on its own?

I did a search and didn't find anything regarding this.

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Old 03-15-2003, 08:58 PM
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Meguiar's cleaner wax is a one step product. You do not need to apply anything over it as it is a wax.
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Old 03-15-2003, 10:57 PM
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Thanks, that's what I thought but wanted to make sure.
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Stefano, I use the cleaner-wax exclusively on my white car, and it cleans and protects quite well. Most purists will scoff at a 1-step product, but I have found that the quality of the product is far less important than how often you actually use it. I can wax the car totally with my orbital buffer and the cleaner-wax in 20 minutes. This encourages me to do it more often, thus better overall results than the once-a- year 5-step process.

Of course a black car is a bit more demanding than a white one, so it depends on your particular circumstances. one hard rule however, unless you are just gently waxing a perfect (new) surface, USE AN ORBITAL BUFFER. They are SO easy and fast, and never ever swirl. In 20 years of maintaining a black car, I learned a lot, but the most important was to never hand rub it with any kind of cleaner, always use the non-swirling orbital.
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Old 03-16-2003, 04:11 PM
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Perfect! I bought a Porter Cable orbital buffer last summer and haven't used it yet. Looks like I'll break it in on the E-320. Thanks for the advice.
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Old 03-16-2003, 08:23 PM
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USE AN ORBITAL BUFFER. They are SO easy and fast, and never ever swirl. In 20 years of maintaining a black car, I learned a lot, but the most important was to never hand rub it with any kind of cleaner, always use the non-swirling orbital.
okay, soapbox back on the shelf. Have fun.
Where can an oribital buffer be gotten at a decent price?

I'd be interested in one (I've hand-waxed a couple of vehicles in the past), but don't know how expensive they are...

Thanks! Lookin' forward to washing and waxing my 123 someday...
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Old 03-16-2003, 09:06 PM
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If I remember correctly, I found mine at Amazon.com (if you can believe that!) for a little over a $100. Figured I'd buy the best so I don't have to buy again.
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I got a 9-inch at Sears several years back for under $50, and it has performed great. However, my dad got a cheapie at the Chinese tool place and it cratered within two uses. I like the 9-10 inch with a circular handle, covers a lot of area, and can be used with one hand to just guide it.
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I would also be interested in getting an orbital buffer. S-Class Guru is right, it would encourage one to do it more often. I just have a concern or two about the buffer. I have seen quite a few cars with half moon shapes all the way down the side. I assume that this means the guy didn't know how to use one. I have heard often times that you REALLY need to know how to use one or else you will get results like above.

So...how hard is it to learn how to use one of these things correctly? I really don't want to risk messing up my MB. Thanks for any advice.
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Harbor Freight Tools has random orbitals on sale all the time for around $15. At that price they're virtually disposable....

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mbtjc,

I think S-Class Guru is referring to a Random Orbital (RO) buffer and not a high speed buffer (I think that's the term). The RO is pretty safe to use but the other can do some serious paint damage in the wrong hands.

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Old 04-28-2003, 08:54 PM
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Just an update and a quick note for you guys:

1) The McGuire's cleaner wax works very well and leaves a great shine

2) The cleaner wax doesn't last as long as regular wax, so be prepared to put another coat of regular wax on in about three weeks.

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