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Old 05-06-2009, 05:04 PM
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Cant say i've ever seen a filter on coolant.. what purpose exactly would it make? most filters on diesels are simply a chemical leeching system i'm pretty they really dont filter anything and since the design doesnt warrant sca's i dont see a bonus. 300-1 million miles shows u just have flush it with new from time to time

I have done at least 8 flushes after de-oiling and citric flush... I still have sediment.

frankly.. its pissing me off.

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Old 05-06-2009, 06:11 PM
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Big rigs do it all the time!

Most of heavy duty/marine/industrial diesel engines use coolant filters. They can be with additives added in the filter element or just plain. A lot of it is because of cavitation as mentioned above and the rest for particulate removal that is created by the chemical processes in the coolant system.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:47 PM
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I have done at least 8 flushes after de-oiling and citric flush... I still have sediment.

frankly.. its pissing me off.

Been there done that i had flush mine about 5 times. But just curious if it's got alot of sediment if the radiator's done stopped up.

Just curious where u would put a filter in if u could hook it up to the heater core where it wouldnt hurt u could use it like a bypass filter but i dont know of any filters that actually filter the coolant just "chemical filters" dont see them doing much actual filtering
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:27 PM
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Cross Flow Radiators do not stop up as easily as the as the ones that the water goes from the top down. As the larger heavier crap will settle to the bottom of the tanks on the sides of the Radiator.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:02 PM
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The newer coolant pressure tanks (M-B) have a puck in it, essentially a "coolant filter".

In a large heavy-duty engine, I'm used to having a coolant filter. It is primarily to maintain proper pH and nitrate levels to prevent cavitation-pitting on wet-sleeve engines.

These engines are often run all day and daily, so the coolant degrades much more quickly than a car engine. Further, they hold many gallons and are expensive to change fluids.

In your car, a coolant filter is IMO more of a pain to install than to simply check/change your coolant at regular intervals. You can check the coolant as I do, just buy the test strips from your local NAPA for diesel coolant test. If the pH and nitrates are off, there are many additives made for this purpose, I use Caterpillar extender, I've also used Penray's product which is good stuff and has a good reputation with OTR trucking companies et al.

The simple thing is to test every 6months if you wish (my M-B diesel cars have never shown a need for SCAs within the 2-year change period) and add SCAs (Supplemental Coolant Additives) if necessary.
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:00 PM
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are 617 engines wet sleeved?
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In your car, a coolant filter is IMO more of a pain to install than to simply check/change your coolant at regular intervals. You can check the coolant as I do, just buy the test strips from your local NAPA for diesel coolant test. If the pH and nitrates are off, there are many additives made for this purpose, I use Caterpillar extender, I've also used Penray's product which is good stuff and has a good reputation with OTR trucking companies et al.

The simple thing is to test every 6months if you wish (my M-B diesel cars have never shown a need for SCAs within the 2-year change period) and add SCAs (Supplemental Coolant Additives) if necessary.

I am not trying to avoid maintenance. I am only trying to trap particulate matter.
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are 617 engines wet sleeved?

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This is an intriguing idea. I never even though about filtering the coolant.
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If I have the room, I'm planning to add one inline with my Holset turbo's water cooling line (once its mounted).
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:49 AM
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what source are you tapping into?


I think the fuel filter mod setup will work just the same.
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:25 PM
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I installed a coolant filter on my 1999 F-350 7.3 and it works really good. There was an extra plug in the water pump, where I installed a nipple, with a hose to the filter. The return line from the filter goes back and tees into the coolant reservoir.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:54 PM
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got the filter setup on the housing.

Currently determining my sources and return.

source: the line that goes from WP to Auxiliary pump

return: the line from the firewall to the head

any thoughts??

I'd prefer not to route so much tubing, so a return that was closer to the Aux pump would be nice.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:59 PM
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What about the lower line from the reservoir to the radiator as a return?

that should be lower pressure... maybe?
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:01 PM
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http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=8

Found pics of a add on kit ..looks like a oil filter..

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