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Old 10-01-2004, 09:30 PM
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Kamil,

It's all well and good that you noticed the location of the first bidder. It's all well and good that you mentioned it in this thread. I think that you're way .

Eskimo, he got me interested so I clicked on the ME link he was talking about and then on her link. On that page it's got her picture and her name is "Gina Marie Rush".

So I went back to the auction and clicked the link for the seller. On that page it states "My name is Michael Rush". So I went back to the girls link (http://luvurskin.myarbonne.com/) and on the My Arbornne Testimony page I found a picture of her baby in front of, you guessed it, Silver Star Imports.


I think Kamil may be on to something. Still could be a conisidence, but the odds just went way down.

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Old 10-01-2004, 09:51 PM
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the plot thickens

Nice catch then, Kamil. We'll have to follow the auction to see if feedback is exchanged at the conclusion. Maybe drop Gina Marie an email to ask if the transaction went smoothly.

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Old 10-01-2004, 09:54 PM
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I was going to bid on a car once and sent out emails to some of the previous auction winners of the seller asking for feedback. One sent me back a reply using the same e-mail address as the Seller. I'm glad I caught that before bidding on the car.
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Eskimo, he got me interested so I clicked on the ME link he was talking about and then on her link. On that page it's got her picture and her name is "Gina Marie Rush".

So I went back to the auction and clicked the link for the seller. On that page it states "My name is Michael Rush". So I went back to the girls link (http://luvurskin.myarbonne.com/) and on the My Arbornne Testimony page I found a picture of her baby in front of, you guessed it, Silver Star Imports.


I think Kamil may be on to something. Still could be a conisidence, but the odds just went way down.
I agree, that's a lot less thin! That someone in the same town could make a legitimate bid, I can believe easily. That someone in the same town, with the same last name, and with some visible connection to the dealership could make a legitimate bid, well, when I try to believe that, my wiring starts smoking.

I've always considered it likely that at least some shill bidding took place on eBay, but figured that most of it wouldn't be easily noticeable. In this case, with the additional information you point out here, I'm having a hard time imagining how it couldn't look suspicious. In line with my previous post, I'll say this: if it is shill bidding, then it's stupid shill bidding. If one were doing any serious amount of business on eBay, how would it be worth the risk? Even if one had a local relative who was interested in buying the car, wouldn't one discourage them from bidding (or bounce their bid) simply to avoid even the appearance of something shady?

It's the sort of thing that one might wish to report to eBay. Maybe not even a bad idea to capture screenshots of the relevant web pages in case they abruptly and mysteriously change...

(I'm not on a witch hunt here, but there's a certain lack of permanence to the web that can be disturbing - sort of like the old Mission Impossible thing where someone goes back to find an office they visited, and it just isn't there.)

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Old 10-01-2004, 10:10 PM
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The car

The car still looks real presentable to me. If it were some one elses money I'd say spend it. I have to buy cars for under $300 these days. You know being Married With Children and all.

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Old 10-01-2004, 11:19 PM
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Old 10-03-2004, 10:44 PM
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It's the sort of thing that one might wish to report to eBay.
I considered bidding on this car, but not now. It just doesn't smell right that I'd be bidding against the current owner (or the current owner's wife).

Definitely something fishy going on here. I hope she "wins" and they get stuck with the costs of listing the car in the first place.

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Old 10-04-2004, 09:15 AM
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I considered bidding on this car, but not now. It just doesn't smell right that I'd be bidding against the current owner (or the current owner's wife).

Definitely something fishy going on here. I hope she "wins" and they get stuck with the costs of listing the car in the first place.

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Old 10-04-2004, 09:31 AM
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Hey...

This car looks really good and I was curious to see how much it was going to go for. Someone finally decided to bid on this car so I figured to check what the bidder was all about. I clicked on the "ME" icon so I can see where this person is from. This girl is from EDMUNDS, OKLAHOMA which is the same town that the seller is from. It can be a coincidence but not likely. Nobody was bidding on this car for a few days since the price is set to 5,999.00 so the seller is trying to attract buyers by showing that this vehicle is desireable.
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It certainly suspicious, but you would think if one were to shill bid they would be less obvious about it.
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Notice that on her bio pages in the Arbonne site she mentions that her husband's name is Calvin, who was a night manager at a hotel. It may be that Michael Rush is a brother-in-law who has told her what a great car this is, but to stay Kosher with Silver star she must bid on it against everyone else.

Just trying to give the benefit of the doubt. If I were to shill bid I would stop once some other sucker was the high bidder

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Old 10-04-2004, 11:10 AM
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Judging by the age and married name of the people in question and the obvious buisness connection , I'd guess that she is most likely a daughter in law.

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Judging by the age and married name of the people in question and the obvious buisness connection , I'd guess that she is most likely a daughter in law.

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Good observation. Michael Rush apparently founded Silver Star Imports 18 years ago, sounds like a Father-in-law.

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Old 10-04-2004, 12:53 PM
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My car was listed on ebay in Milford and I live right down the street from the dealer that had it listed when I bid on it. So I would not say that a bid from the same town is a shill bid. But this action smells funny, I would stay away.
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Old 10-04-2004, 01:07 PM
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I knew I was right, eventhough nobody believed me.

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