Let me see if I can still do basic math

$14.96/gal x 1/35lb x 8.3 lb/gal = $3.55/gallon for the soybean oil.

$5.49/1.25gallon = $4.39/gallon for canola.

I guess I won't complain about #2 Diesel at $2.26/gallon right now.

How much bean oil should be added to a tank of Diesel, and will it clean long-term?

Best Regards,
Jim

The 35 pounds of oil at Sam's/Costco is what I use also- about 1/3 of the jug per tank quiets the engines of my W123's quite a bit. The exhaust smells better and no spots on the rear hatch either.

What is better the canola or the soybean based oil? The soybean based oil looks a little thinner. I think I'll hold off on adding the soybean oil for a while until it starts warming up next spring.

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I did exactly that Mr. Navy(can I call you Old?) and my car runs A WHOLE LOT SMOOTHER. I mean A WHOLE LOT. Used Power Service and a gallon of Giant Food Stores brand pure vegetable oil(cheapest on the shelf). Incredible difference.

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That's because the diesel was orignally designed to run veggie oil.

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Don't buy the veggie oil, you can get it free!!! WVO (waste vegetable oil) is free for the taking. I get 2 gallons per week from a local resteraunt, I filter it through an old t-shirt, then I filter it through a 1 micron filter bag, lastly heat it on the stove to remove any water. The filter bags cost about $2.39 each at filterbag.com. The electricity to heat it is around $1.00. I reuse my bags. I filter about 10 gallons per bag. So, oil is free, 23 cents per gallon for filtering, and about 20 cents per gallon to heat. So, I have fuel at around 43 - 45 cents per gallon. I run a 25% mix.

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ive heard hemp oil works great too.dont be surprised though if the boys in blue start tailing ya!

oil has a lower cetane rating.
thread was started about diesel purge and helping diesel owners find out why their motors/injection system is knocking.
oil most likley covers up the problem i and others may have with their injections systems. yes it can be caused by bad diesel fuel but the does the Diesel Purge reduce knocking because of cetane increase or because of something else.

from what i understand the nailing/knockin is actualy a very rapid rise in pressure in the combustion chamber. if viewed on a line graph it would be a sharp peak at the top. where a normal combustion has a more rounded top with an even burn rate through the combustion cycle.

any non oil points of view?

and yes i also want to go WVO i just would like to know why i am still getting this darn knocking now running diesel.

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2.5" Flowmaster Exhaust
flex-a-lite dual electric cooling fan conversion

now have a 1985 toyota diesel pickup

You probably have an injector that is letting fuel into the chamber early. With no timing control the combustion is as you describe.

I bought the pop tester, take 'em to a shop if you like. I like to eliminate variables like greed and incompetence.

edit: that engine has other issues also, search for posts on the pressure valve holders on a 603 pump

edit: search for posts by sixto, gsxr and psfred, they all post about this engine

Worked on a Izusu Diesel panel truck today where the driver had put 8 gals of gasoline in the tank. To say it was nailing is an understatement. Spitting, sputtering and smoking too. Added a gal. of oil to the tank and filled in with diesel. drained the lines until it started picking the mix up and it ran like a champ.

Well, you guys got the better part of me, and I could nto stand the curiosity anymore. So I went out today and bought me a gallon of 100% veg oil and a bottle of Cetane booster from Power Service. Well you know what? It really does run smoother. I mean the car doesn't even shake anymore with the a/c on (I live in Miami, in Miami its always summer). And I kinda like the MikyDees smell coming from behind my car! The car has an incredible power boost now (evn more so than when I cleaned out the banjo bolt on the manifold and replace the overboost sensor). I am really happy with the results! Thank guys, you're the best!

Question though....how often do I have to do this, every fill up? and also, will my rubber hoses/filters suffer at all with this treatment??? Again thanks for all your help!

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I use 49 cetane B2 diesel, and I still add about 10 oz of PowerService Cetane booster every fill up.

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Oldnavy, I have been using 100% vegetable oil I get from the supermarket, and I have to thank you for the advise becasue it really really has helped my car. I have also been using the cetane boost from performance products and it really has helped a whol lot also. My question is, is there a danger of using the gallon I am pouring it at every fill up?? Should I do this all the time?? Is one gallon enough?? I am really really excited about this new world you brought to me of biodiesel, I have been reading a whole lot, but mostly I have seen the articles of WVO and what not. Can you give me some good pointers to keep the old girl running as great as she is now with the veggie oil? Is filtering WVO as good as brand new veggie oil??? Please help!

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Myself I like to keep my VO between 2% - 10% max when I'm adding to tank. I only do VO in the warm months, late Nov to mid March I don't use VO because of fears of thicking/clogging and use only B2 bio-diesel. Check out this Bio-Diesel Forum for a starter. I hope this has been a help.

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'13 Chrysler 200 Touring Candy Red. Grandma's ride.

Age and cunning will always over come youth and vigor.

Old Navy, thank you very much for taking the time to answer my question step by step. I so much appreciate this. Now I can share this info with other friends of mine I have convinced of this idea, soley on the fact that I am so enthusiastic about it, and the fact that my car smells like french fries. I have one other question though, becasue I seem to be getting the terminology all mixed up...you say: "Also I was refering to Bio-Diesel as being the fuel system cleaner, not VO. I'm not sure if VO has thecleaning properties of Bio-Diesel." What exactly is biodiesel, and since it is obviously not what I did, then what do you call what I did. Does it have a name. See, I was under the impression that biodiesel is what I did. I guess not

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