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Jim B+ 11-01-2004 09:51 AM

A manual W123 sunroof?
 
The summer issue of The Star profiles a lovely '82 240D, and reprints the spec-sheet for the car as available on the US market.

They mention a MANUAL SUN ROOF in addition to the power one.

Has anyone seen a W123 with one of these? How hard would it be to retrofit into a dead power sunroof? The manual sunroof on a friend's fintail seemed a robust piece of work that would be hard to wear out.

Very curious.

Old Deis 11-01-2004 09:58 AM

I have a manual sunroof on my 81 300D parts car. I am thinking that would be a major job to swap with a power version. Don't really know.

cscmc1 11-01-2004 10:10 AM

Yup, my 84 300TD has (had -- she's now sold) one. VERY nice, if you ask me. I'd take manual over electric any day.

Chris

rs899 11-01-2004 10:17 AM

My 240D stick is manual sunroof/manual windows. The roof is fantastic. Just reach up , twist the handle, snap it back, twist to lock. Its done in one easy motion.

No cables or motors to worry about. Doesn't stick.
I wish they were all that way.

I haven't really looked at it but I don't think it would be hard to retrofit into an electric. Just need the donor car.

jas2wa 11-01-2004 02:43 PM

All of the 123 wagons have manual sliding roof mechanisms- there was no place to route the cable and house the motor in order to power it. I am glad!

Benzcrusher 11-01-2004 02:49 PM

The manual 123 sunroofs in the sedans is like the sunroof in the TD wagon, I haven't done a side by side comparison but conversion to a manual sunroof should be cake...

123c 11-01-2004 03:02 PM

I looked at an old Euro sedan a few years back, and it had a manual sunroof...

W123dMercMania 11-01-2004 04:08 PM

My 240D is manual sunroof too. Just what rs899 says Just reach up , twist the handle, snap it back, twist to lock. Its done in one easy motion. No hassle and no worries !

apache 11-01-2004 04:59 PM

Mine is an '82 240D Euro with a manual sunroof. Works great! It is a precision device and closes like a hatch in a a submarine.

83-240D 11-01-2004 05:43 PM

you really know how to hurt a guy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by apache
Mine is an '82 240D Euro with a manual sunroof. Works great! It is a precision device and closes like a hatch in a a submarine.

mine is closed with silicone...caulk that is. maybe next year i replace everything. it was nice when it was open.

i had am 80 jetta with one of those smoked acrylic wind deflectors. are those still available? for the benz?

bill murrow 11-01-2004 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 83-240D
mine is closed with silicone...caulk that is. maybe next year i replace everything. it was nice when it was open.

i had am 80 jetta with one of those smoked acrylic wind deflectors. are those still available? for the benz?

My td is manual of course and wouldn't trade it for the world.

My glass man tells me rust will form when silicone caulk is used on metal. He has seen silicone used in the installation of windshields resulting in rust only where the silicone was applied.

Just thought I'd pass the info along. Wouldn't want to see your sunroof rust ;)

Cheers,

Bill

flash123 11-02-2004 01:03 AM

Sounds like all you guys like the manual sunroof. More power to you. I wouldn't convert my power roof.

Motors are not hard to come by, and the system is not hard to repair. Mine worked, but barely. I replaced the motor with no improvement. I took it apart and cleaned and lubed the cable and it works like a champ.

I used chassis lube so I will probably be doing it again next summer. do it right, use the right stuff and fergetaboutit for years.

rs899 11-02-2004 06:54 AM

The electric sunroof in my wife's 300D is slow and gummed up, despite replacing the cable and using gleitpaste. The manual in the 240D is head and shoulders easier to use and more precise. As someone said above, its a precision instrument, like closing the hatch on a sub.

I really hadn't even given a thought to converting the 300D to manual until this thread popped up. But the next time I see a manual sunroof in the boneyard, I will take a look and see what needs to be done to effect the change. I think its not much more than the handle mechanism.

math 12-22-2020 04:33 PM

I have a powered sunroof in my w123 coupe. 2 door.

However the cable is kinked and no longer available anywhere. Can't use the sedan 4 door one unfortunately.

Any advice ?

123boy 12-22-2020 04:53 PM

I have the power sunroof in my 83 240D. It's been closed and weather tight since I bought the car a few years ago. I will not tempt fate and try to open it. At least, not until every single other "issue" with the car has been addressed (which will probably be never).
IMHO, the sunroof was the most idiotic option ever designed for any car.
"Hey guys, I have a great idea, let's put giant hole in the roof (directly above the driver and passenger) and seal it with a sliding panel of metal or glass. What could possibly go wrong?" SMH


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