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Old 08-09-2005, 09:52 PM
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My moms saturn goes 0-60 in about 7 seconds.

208k , leaks/burns about 1 quart of oil every 100 miles. The clutch is going and it overheats if I don't turn the heat on full blast and drive with the windows down.

eh, still gets 30 mpg, takes 20 bucks to fill the tank, and, like I said, 0-60 in 7s.

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I'm pretty sure you do on an OM617+W126 combination, which is ~1 second slower to 60mph than the W123 sedan. The W123.133 spec is approx 14 seconds stock, the W126.120 spec is approx 15 seconds.
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Best run with a G-tech pro was 0-60mph in 7.72 secs. 87 300D with small intercooler turned up pump and a hollowed out cat and muffler removed. That was with regular diesel. Bio times are low 8's.
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:46 PM
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My '05 CDI with RennTech tuning does 0-60 in 6.2 (average of three runs). I've personally taken it to 110mph at 2900rpm.. with at least 1000 more RPM room on the tach based on gas peddle travel (and gut feeling). Rated top speed is 150 (in Germany).
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:21 PM
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My '05 CDI with RennTech tuning does 0-60 in 6.2 (average of three runs). I've personally taken it to 110mph at 2900rpm.. with at least 1000 more RPM room on the tach based on gas peddle travel (and gut feeling). Rated top speed is 150 (in Germany).
If you have the stock gearing for US spec cars, in 5th gear at a true 110 mph, it should be slightly under 3200 rpm(2.65 ratio). Assuming the lockup clutch has engaged. Only 300 rpm difference, but just a minor correction.

Most likely speedo error. 101 mph is the rated speed for rpm givn the gearing. Unless you changed your wheels and have a greater diameter than 25.7 inches.

I have a question. I am curious....Does the CDI shift at it's redline, or a few hundred rpm's before it? I have seen videos of E300TD's and they all are set to shift several hundred rpm BEFORE redline.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:34 PM
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If you have the stock gearing for US spec cars, in 5th gear at a true 110 mph, it should be slightly under 3200 rpm(2.65 ratio). Assuming the lockup clutch has engaged. Only 300 rpm difference, but just a minor correction.

Most likely speedo error. 101 mph is the rated speed for rpm givn the gearing. Unless you changed your wheels and have a greater diameter than 25.7 inches.

I have a question. I am curious....Does the CDI shift at it's redline, or a few hundred rpm's before it? I have seen videos of E300TD's and they all are set to shift several hundred rpm BEFORE redline.

To be honest, I got to the 110 mph, and was a bit scared to get sited by a cop (even though the road was a relatively safe one, 110, is jail time).. anyway I didn't stay there long enough to carefully note the RPMs accurately.. 2900 was what I recall seeing when I glanced at it. They may have been on the decline due to my deceleration from 110 when I looked at them.. It's probably more reading error on my part, than spedo error of 9mph.

The car does indeed shift about 2-300 before redline.. very odd when you consider the redline is 4700rpm, rather low for such a robust engine.
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To be honest, I got to the 110 mph, and was a bit scared to get sited by a cop (even though the road was a relatively safe one, 110, is jail time).. anyway I didn't stay there long enough to carefully note the RPMs accurately.. 2900 was what I recall seeing when I glanced at it. They may have been on the decline due to my deceleration from 110 when I looked at them.. It's probably more reading error on my part, than spedo error of 9mph.

The car does indeed shift about 2-300 before redline.. very odd when you consider the redline is 4700rpm, rather low for such a robust engine.
I know what you mean!

I was doing over 120 when I had to back off. Also at one point over 130 mph, but I backed off as soon as I got there. At 120 mph, I was cruising with a young girl in a Toyota Solara. I let her take the lead as I slowed down to ~100 mph. I don't want to spend time in jail.

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I should add, that I was on a slight decline when hitting 135. It really didn't want to pull much past 130 because the fuel cuts off around 5K rpm. Speedometer is accurate to a pin at this speed according to the picture.

If I had a REALLY long, REALLY deep drop, I think I could hit 140 mph(thank you, Newton).
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wow! A Toyota Solara was keeping up with you at 135?? I didn't know they were that fast.

The thing about these MB's is they were designed with the full intention to run at top speed (140-150 mph) for extended periods of time, so they are very rock solid, and quiet at those speeds and it makes you feel like you're safe.. even though you know that (at least here in the US) that speed can get you in big trouble.
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The fuel does not cut off at around 5krpm - it's just a rev limiter that won't allow it to go past a certain rpm. The 1986-87 OM603 engines are governed to 5150rpm, +/-250rpm. Mine was right at the 5150 setting stock. You test it by flooring the pedal in park, let it hit the peak for a couple of seconds (pretty likely to be right around 5100), then let off. I increased the max rpm on my pump to the limit of spec (5400rpm) but that is really only useful for attempting higher top speeds, or more likely, higher peak speeds in the lower 3 gears for use in autox or on a road course... since the power cuve falls off rapidly above 5k, there's probably no acceleration gains to be had by wringing it to the redline in each gear. That may be why the CDI upshifts below redline... it may be optimized for best acceleration.

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The fuel does not cut off at around 5krpm - it's just a rev limiter that won't allow it to go past a certain rpm. The 1986-87 OM603 engines are governed to 5150rpm, +/-250rpm. Mine was right at the 5150 setting stock. You test it by flooring the pedal in park, let it hit the peak for a couple of seconds (pretty likely to be right around 5100), then let off. I increased the max rpm on my pump to the limit of spec (5400rpm) but that is really only useful for attempting higher top speeds, or more likely, higher peak speeds in the lower 3 gears for use in autox or on a road course... since the power cuve falls off rapidly above 5k, there's probably no acceleration gains to be had by wringing it to the redline in each gear. That may be why the CDI upshifts below redline... it may be optimized for best acceleration.

Dave, did yours cut off earlier???

The fuel cutoff in mine occurs at 5K rpm(not the same way as a gasser). In park, I can easily bounce off 5.4 - 5.5K rpm. It's a cinch, but it's not good practice.

After 5K, the boost and fuel enrichement leans out. My car shifts at maybe 50 rpm shy of 5K in each gear.

Here, this is a 2nd gear Italian tuneup at 5450. I don't like standing redline romps, and neither does my car :

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Dave, did yours cut off earlier???

The fuel cutoff in mine occurs at 5K rpm(not the same way as a gasser). In park, I can easily bounce off 5.4 - 5.5K rpm. It's a cinch, but it's not good practice.

After 5K, the boost and fuel enrichement leans out. My car shifts at maybe 50 rpm shy of 5K in each gear.

Here, this is a 2nd gear Italian tuneup at 5450. I don't like standing redline romps, and neither does my car :

http://www.ejzcars.com/5450.mov

Wow! you guys are brave, I don't know if I could handle my baby sitting up there for so long... And your car has some 100K miles plus.. man.. Impressive.
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Dave, did yours cut off earlier???

The fuel cutoff in mine occurs at 5K rpm(not the same way as a gasser). In park, I can easily bounce off 5.4 - 5.5K rpm. It's a cinch, but it's not good practice.

After 5K, the boost and fuel enrichement leans out. My car shifts at maybe 50 rpm shy of 5K in each gear.

Here, this is a 2nd gear Italian tuneup at 5450. I don't like standing redline romps, and neither does my car :

http://www.ejzcars.com/5450.mov


I have a question for ya -

From a deadstop to WOT... what's your 1-2 shift RPM with the shifter in D?
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I have a question for ya -

From a deadstop to WOT... what's your 1-2 shift RPM with the shifter in D?
You should be able to see it in one of my videos(located as a hotlink in my signature).

I can get 4900 - 4950 rpm 1-2nd. Same with 2nd to 3rd and third to 4th.
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The fuel cutoff in mine occurs at 5K rpm(not the same way as a gasser). In park, I can easily bounce off 5.4 - 5.5K rpm. It's a cinch, but it's not good practice.

After 5K, the boost and fuel enrichement leans out. My car shifts at maybe 50 rpm shy of 5K in each gear.
There is no cutoff! If it hits 5400 in park, that's where it will rev to in gear as well. If it stops at 5000 in top gear, there's no fuel cutoff, you just ran out of power to push the car any faster. If it will rev to 5400 in park it should also rev to 5400 in 2nd and 3rd gear if you hold the selector lever in L or S, respectively. (It's not normally possible to hold it in 1st gear beyond the automatic set point in the valve body - approx 4800-4900 in my car.)


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