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Old 01-15-2005, 06:20 PM
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5k is a lot for a diesel! Also the 603/606 engines seem to love to rev. But these days some gas cars are in the 7k-9k range.

F1 cars I think are up to 18k-19k rpm!
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:29 PM
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AFAIK, there is no rev limiter. That is a number that has been bandied about as the highest RPMs in which it is safe to operate. Fun fact: the older diesels do no have any type of red line on the tach.

The highest I've gone with my car is 105 MPH. The engine started to sound strained and I was at 3900 RPM. Based on this very unscientific evidence, I can see the 5700 RPM (safety) limit being real ... Since I don't have any opportunity to drive it at high speeds legally, top speed is not a big concern. I love how it feels at 75, which is what I drive it everyday.

OldSouth has a W140 OM603. His tach shows 4700 RPM being the redline - which he hit doing 120. That car may have a different final drive ratio than the 124 or 126. Still, it's a great reference point.

See the picture: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/1683-diesel-will-back-us-speed.jpg
That's 4400 rpm. That is a 350 with a much larger stroke.

The 300 has the same revving nature as the turbocharged 606. Factory rated redline is 5000 - 5300 rpm. Getting to those engine speeds, one would have to remain in either "3" or "2" since the transmission will not shift up that high.

Foot to floor, I get shifts reaching nearly 5K, but not quite. With "2" engaged, I can get up to 5.4K.

Click below for a demonstration of the 3.0 603:

http://www.ejzcars.com/5450.mov

....I sound like a freak when I say "TEMPERATURE'S RISING!". Please ignore me. I was just noticing the coolant temp starting to rise a little higher than I would care. I had a bad auxiliary fan, so I switched on the defroster.

LOL, no problems with the bottom end, Hattie. This tape was taken a long time ago. Ask the Finnish gurus who run theirs up to 6K each and every day(both turbo'ed 603's and 606's).
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:31 PM
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5k is a lot for a diesel! Also the 603/606 engines seem to love to rev. But these days some gas cars are in the 7k-9k range.

F1 cars I think are up to 18k-19k rpm!
My Honda has an engine thats safe to 9,200 rpm..........but its had a bit of work done to it too.
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Old 01-16-2005, 03:16 PM
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Fun fact: the older diesels do no have any type of red line on the tach.
Most have a dot on the speedo at the recommended top speed.
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What a jerk

This jerk is back, another "INVESTMENT-GRADE, BUY-to-HOLD "


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6336&item=4524897409&rd=1


Check out his Adenauer he has for sale though. That looks nice, for $95,000.
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:30 PM
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SPECIAL NOTE :Mechanically this 300SDL Turbo Diesel has only 103K miles. Engine, transmission, brakes, suspension and electric features (including all power windows, sunroof, seats and cruise control) are operationaland have passed our strenuous road test. The car rides and drives extremely powerfully - smooth, effortless transmission and with superior comfort. Our certified Mercedes-Benz technician has specially tuned and reconditioned the pump, steering and suspension to accomodate only the most serious highway, high-speed driving. This vehicle is capable of long-term, high-speed driving in excess of 130mph. As such - this vehicle's condition is considered VINTAGE and HIGH-PERFORMANCE.

This vehicle is both a RARE find and a dream to drive. This vehicle has just had over $3K in new engine and suspension improvements.

THIS VEHICLE IS BEING OFFERED TO SERIOUS BIDDERS ONLY !!! Due to the nature of the expensive and highly sensitive performance improvements installed by our Certified Mercedes-Benz Technicians, this vehicle should be test-driven to be appreciated. Only a select few individuals will be capable of appreciating the performance and driving characteristics of this automobile.

This vehicle's engine and suspension have been conditioned to BETTER THAN ORIGINAL condition. The classic lines and features of the '87 S-Class are unmistakable. This vehicle is offered as INVESTMENT-GRADE, BUY-to-HOLD.



Yeah......lets see him prove it.
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:52 PM
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Crappy interior

I don't see how this vehicle, with supposedly 103k on the clock, can have such a crappy interior. I posted some comparison shots of mine, same color, at 134k mi. The first two are of the eBay vehicle.
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:56 PM
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Yours looks very nice.

Hopefully I will cause no offense, but I can't see a red MB-Tex or leather interior without thinking, "Pimpin'!"
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Old 02-03-2005, 05:11 PM
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I don't see how this vehicle, with supposedly 103k on the clock, can have such a crappy interior. I posted some comparison shots of mine, same color, at 134k mi. The first two are of the eBay vehicle.
The ebay car looks like its had a 350 pounder driving it looking at the wrinkles in the leather so low on the seat bottom.
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Yours looks a lot nicer - I agree that interior is no way 103,000 miles.. the seat just looks too all-over worn.

No offence but, red would not be my first choice either although I guess it's quite different to the usual!
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Old 02-03-2005, 05:25 PM
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The ebay car looks like its had a 350 pounder driving it looking at the wrinkles in the leather so low on the seat bottom.
Isn't that a typical SDL driver??? Runs ducking....
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Old 02-03-2005, 05:27 PM
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Wow

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I don't see how this vehicle, with supposedly 103k on the clock, can have such a crappy interior. I posted some comparison shots of mine, same color, at 134k mi. The first two are of the eBay vehicle.

I just have to say "wow" to your interior. That is clean. I don't care if it is red, if I saw that in a car I was looking at buying I'd start to drool.
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I just have to say "wow" to your interior. That is clean. I don't care if it is red, if I saw that in a car I was looking at buying I'd start to drool.
Thanks. I realize folks either love or hate the maroon leather, but I can tell you it looks different in person. It's more of a rich burgundy; the computer screens don't do it justice. I LOVE IT!

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Old 02-03-2005, 06:16 PM
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Thanks. I realize folks either love or hate the maroon leather, but I can tell you it looks different in person. It's more of a rich burgundy; the computer screens don't do it justice. I LOVE IT!


Holy crap... I just looked at all your pics. That's an amazing example of an SDL.
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Holy crap... I just looked at all your pics. That's an amazing example of an SDL.
Thanks.
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