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Old 12-20-2004, 06:38 PM
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That's just sad. It's a sign of what those people are all about. They aren't about the engineering or longevity. They are not even about the pedigree of Teutonic design. They are only about the pretentiousness of owning something they consider 'exclusive'. An MB is not exclusive; a Bentley is exclusive. An MB is just a damn good car(pre'95 at least). I see more people driving new MBs that I know for a fact are living with their mothers and not investing than I can count. There are those that can afford a new Benz, and there are those that somehow find a way to afford a new Benz by rendering themselves car-poor via consecutive upside-down loans and eating ramen. The latter category usually yields the jerkoffs and they end up exposing themselves for who and what they really are, posers. Sooner or later their cars are retaken by the bank, and it's only a matter of time until that happens. I'm glad I was born too smart for that.

You hit it right on the nose!

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Old 12-20-2004, 06:51 PM
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They have quit teaching auto mechanics in school, because it's really beneath most of our advanced little munchkins. How awfull to teach a kid a trade that would relegate him/her to a life under the hood of a vehicle???

This kid was under the impression that the oil cools the engine. I wonder what he thinks the coolant is for - drinking?

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oil does help to cool the engine. why do u think some people put oversized oil pans on. so the car will hold more oil and run a little cooler.
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Old 12-20-2004, 07:05 PM
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You hit it right on the nose!

Spoiled sosciety, people that have money that comes easy don't have the respect that you or I develop for far lesser things, all things really! BB
Trouble is, these people don't quite have the money they think they have. Economics is a hard thing for schmucks of lesser intelligence to grasp. Just because you think you make enough to be able to afford a $750 monthly car pymt doesn't mean you really can. The other things will nickel and dime you to death. These putzes don't get that. Looks doable on paper but when you actually get down to brass tacks life gets *****ty for you real quick.
It is my personal opinion that anyone who spends over 40k for a driver, especially a new car, is a dip*****.
It ain't like real estate folks! There is no investment value in an expensive new car!
And I love my cheap Lil Annie. There are a lot of us who could have afforded a nice new German auto of some sort but refused on account of being cheapskates. We know about the satisfaction of owning the old Benz as an unexpected result(at least in my case, I'd always heard MBs of any year were prohibitively expensive to own). The quality of the older cars is unmistakeable.
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Old 12-20-2004, 07:07 PM
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oil does help to cool the engine. why do u think some people put oversized oil pans on. so the car will hold more oil and run a little cooler.
Yeah, oil does cool the engine, though that isn't its primary job. The oil cooler is itself a tiny radiator for removing heat from the engine, and the piston squirters in the turbo engines are there to cool the pistons too.

In fact, 'air-cooled' engines like old VWs are more accurately called 'oil-cooled' engines.

However, for the purpose of this discussion, the problem with his engine isn't that the oil wasn't cooling it, but rather that the oil wasn't lubricating it.

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Old 12-20-2004, 07:18 PM
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The moral of this thread is don't drain the oil out of your engine and turn it on. The results won't be good either way you look at it.
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Old 12-20-2004, 08:42 PM
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The moral of this thread is don't drain the oil out of your engine and turn it on. The results won't be good either way you look at it.
sounds like common sense to me . If i were this kid's dad I'd force him to buy his own car since he ruined this one.
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Old 12-20-2004, 11:11 PM
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Kid: Waa, I broke my car. Gimme new one.

Dad: Sure son, I'll help you buy a new S-Class. That is, I'll help you figure out a budget so you can decide which one you can afford. Lets sit down and do some math. How much do you make at Taco Bell again?

At least, thats what would happen if there was any justice in the world.

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Old 12-21-2004, 09:20 AM
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Kid: Waa, I broke my car. Gimme new one.

Dad: Sure son, I'll help you buy a new S-Class. That is, I'll help you figure out a budget so you can decide which one you can afford. Lets sit down and do some math. How much do you make at Taco Bell again?

At least, thats what would happen if there was any justice in the world.

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How true that is....
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:24 AM
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Well at least with a newer one he won't be so tempted to work on it. If he were my kid I would say good job you have two choices:
1. learn how to fixe it.
2. Buy a Camry with whatever you can afford.

But I'd be a nice dad and kick in a couple of bucks so he gets a decent Camry, he would have to pay most of it back of course.
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:35 AM
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Trouble is, these people don't quite have the money they think they have. Economics is a hard thing for schmucks of lesser intelligence to grasp. Just because you think you make enough to be able to afford a $750 monthly car pymt doesn't mean you really can.
That is so true and I see it all the time. People go out and spend up to the maximum amount their monthly salary allows them to spend. There are many people who go out and buy a 250k house, have a couple 20k automobiles in their driveway, yet put nothing into a 401(k) and probably don't even have 20k in liquid assets.

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Old 12-21-2004, 09:40 AM
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That is so true and I see it all the time. People go out and spend up to the maximum amount their monthly salary allows them to spend. There are many people who go out and buy a 250k house, have a couple 20k automobiles in their driveway, yet put nothing into a 401(k) and probably don't even have 20k in liquid assets.

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And when something happens they wonder why things get repossesed....or they have bad credit....


What do these people expect to do when they retire? even if you get social security, its barely enough to survive on.
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:42 AM
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I'm 19 and when I retire I don't expect Social Securty to be around. It will probably be gone in 20 years. But I still have to pay into it.
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:51 AM
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I wonder how much damage the kerosene that he was putting into the engine did?

You know there is no way he got all that stuff out.

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Old 12-21-2004, 10:03 AM
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This is an interesting thread.

I have thought about this overnight and with help from all the messages posted in response.

I feel a bit sorry for this kid who wants to do something useful with his hands but doubtless has had no encouragement from his parents. And certainly no instruction from them. Just because you are born to parents with a higher economic status doesn't mean that you can be a doctor or a lawyer. Some of us are born to the wrench or the table saw and that's all there is to it. My happiest moments are the feelings of accomplishment I get from finishing a project with my own hands. There is honor in the trades. Yet there is a significant part of the population - mainly professionals - who consider tradesmen as beneath them. They'll praise the car mechanic who saves their a** late on a saturday afternoon, but will under no circumstance encourage their kids to pursue such a profession. So even if little Johnny or Susie lacks the ambition for graduate school, they are often forced into it trying to live up to their parents expectations. The result being a class of citizens essentially uncomfortable with their station in life, having been forced to something that they will ultimately be mediocre at, causing endless other problems in society.

I am grateful for my parents insisting on my getting an education beyond high school. It has served me well. But, the time I've spent in the shop next to my dad has been the most valuable and rewarding time of all.

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I think everyone here is getting mislead. Let's get something straight, as I know this guy very well (we've exchanged PMs). He isn't from a rich family at all, and when he said he will get a newer S-Class, he meant one from the early 80s. In fact, that 500SE he drives was imported from Europe in 1980 and has been in his family ever since. His dad at one point wanted to sell it as he felt it was too fast for him. I don't quite remember why that ended up not happpening.

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Do you need the second hand if you include Hatterasguy?

Oh, and that includes me Mr. Carlton. I am on that forum as well. I actually joined that forum before I came over here after discovering that very few folks over there were more technically competent than myself -- and I consider myself a novice!!

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