99 E300 Turbodiesel Glow Plug Help. Urgent - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

michakaveli · #31 12-23-2004, 11:20 PM

Hatty

Make sure to use some anti-seize when reinstalling the new plugs and getting the glow plug reamer.

It's a snap after using the anti-sieze, at least you won't ever have to worry about the glow plugs snapping again.

Hatterasguy · #32 12-23-2004, 11:27 PM

Oh yeah an ample amount will be used!

My friend bought the reamer tool also so if the first set comes out he should be ok.

But his are original!

He has tons of records from the po, for new shocks, review mirrors ect, but no glowplug records. So is 150k a lot for these?

sokoloff · #33 12-23-2004, 11:28 PM

I don't believe that antisieze will help much, although I hope it will because I used it.

It's not the threads on the glow plug that cause it to sieze and eventually break off. It's the carbon in the prechamber that more or less welds the barrel of the glow plug in place. I had all the threads removed from the glow plug and it still wouldn't budge until I drilled it out.

Len

aklim · #34 12-23-2004, 11:46 PM

I would think that antisieze can help you make sure that would not be the problem. We don't need to add more stress to the GP than the carbon. Next thing I think we can do is annual removal of the GP. That way, if we ream it out we can keep it cleaner and have less chances of it siezing in the head.

Brian Carlton · #35 12-23-2004, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

But his are original!

He has tons of records from the po, for new shocks, review mirrors ect, but no glowplug records. So is 150k a lot for these?

I'm thinking that you might be in for some trouble with 150K on the clock.

See my earlier post with the recommendation for use of an impact wrench.

I think that you will have the best possible luck with this solution. Just make sure you sit there and hold the gun for at least 10 or 15 minutes. I'm hoping that the vibration will dislodge the carbon buildup around the shaft of the plug.

It would also be very informative if you could provide the breaking torque required for the plugs that do manage to release for you.

Hatterasguy · #36 12-24-2004, 12:18 AM

Well I have sudjested to my friend that if a few get stuck just to leave them until they die. Or until next summer when school is out, because pulling the head is not a simple easy looking job. Also not a fun job when it is just above freezing out.

Once the head is off I don't think it will be that expensive to get the old plug out, but with 150k on the clock might as well get the valves checked and new valve seals put in. Also since the timing chain is already broke, it is a big job.

sokoloff · #37 12-24-2004, 08:12 AM

I wasn't saying not to use antisieze. Heck, I used it myself hoping it would do something. I'm just not sure that it will. I definitely agree that reaming is important. If you go to the trouble of removing the manifold once a year to loosen/tighten the glow plugs, then you may as well spend another half an hour and completely remove them and ream the holes. I'd probably suggest getting the reamer made for that engine too to make sure you're giving yourself the best possible opportunity to have a pleasant glow plug removal experience.

Baum Tools just developed one for $54.

I agree with Hatterasguy too that if they get stuck, leave them be until they die. But if a bad one gets stuck, then you may need to attack that one, especially in a cold climate. Here in NC, temps never get all that cold and I could easily manage with just five glow plugs working, although that glow plug light/check engine light would bug the hell out of me.

Len

aklim · #38 12-24-2004, 09:56 AM

I went to their site and couldn't find the reamer. Do I have to call them or what?

sokoloff · #39 12-24-2004, 11:59 AM

The tool just came out about six months ago. It's not in their catalog yet. Call them and tell them you want the reamer for the 606 engine. It's $54 I think. They'll know what you're talking about.

Len

michakaveli · #40 12-24-2004, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sokoloff

Call them and tell them you want the reamer for the 606 engine. It's $54 I think. They'll know what you're talking about.

Len

The dealer won't know about reamer. Order it here from FastLane. $59.00 shipped

aklim · #41 12-24-2004, 01:39 PM

What is the difference between the Fastlane one and the Baumtools one? Also, what is the part number?

michakaveli · #42 12-24-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

What is the difference between the Fastlane one and the Baumtools one? Also, what is the part number?

didn't know baumtools had one. I just went through phil

aklim · #43 12-24-2004, 02:58 PM

I heard that one of them had a swivel on it or something?

sokoloff · #44 12-24-2004, 04:32 PM

I was talking about Baum Tools, not the dealer.

Len

aklim · #45 12-29-2004, 09:32 PM

Just had a Menage e Trois on my 210. 2 MB techs on 1 car. Gilly and another MB tech who will remain anonymous. They got the GP out. However, it is not sealing well. I suspect we will have to retap the hole since the threads are FUBAR. Can't get the M12 X 1.25 to start on it. Don't know why. I measured the tap and it was 16 thousands more than the GP. Also the drill was a little slanted and took some head material off. I suppose it would be ok since the threads are what seals the GP to the head. I will look into the MB kit since it might have some stuff I need out of it.

BTW, If anyone has a GP issue, have Gilly look at it. Gilly did my fix or at least had a large part of fixing it.

Bottom line? Light at the end of the tunnel but not out of the woods yet.