|
|
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Turbo versus non-Turbo: which is better?
I saw someone comment that people without turbos assume that turbos would be better, but he didn't think so. I am really curious why. He didn't explain.
Could those of you who have driven both provide some insights on this? I am shopping for MB diesel right and have been assuming that the turbo would be better, but I don't want to waste a lot time looking at cars I really don't want. BobbyRae |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Depends on the driving you do and the performance you are willing to live with. For an around town car that doesn't see much highway use and if you can live with slower acceleration the non-turbo will do you fine. They are generally a little louder but are also easier to maintain/work on. If you drive mostly on the highway or with lots of stop-n-go traffic a turbo will keep up with traffic easier. It also depends on where you live. If you live at or near sea level with mostly flat terrain then the non-turbo will be adequate. If you live at higher altitudes, live or drive in the mountains often then the turbo will be a better candidate. It really depends on what you can live with. RT
__________________
When all else fails, vote from the rooftops! 84' Mercedes Benz 300D Anthracite/black, 171K 03' Volkswagen Jetta TDI blue/black, 93K 93' Chevrolet C2500HD ExCab 6.5TD, Two-tone blue, 252K |
#3
|
||||
|
||||
There's no question here. Turbo is the only way to go. Turbos need no extra maintenance and everything else is about the same on the engines. The nearly extra 50 HP is well worth having regardless what your driving situations may be. Also as far as what I've read, there isn't much difference in the mileage you can expect.
GO for a turbo.
__________________
DJ 84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012 |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
I have one of each, 1978 300 D and 1985 300D. The non-turbo is geared for better off the line to 35mph, so for in town driving it is good. For the metered expressway on ramps we have in milwaukee the non turbo makes for a very stressfull entry. Try merging into 65 to 70 mph traffic at 40. The turbo will get to 55 on these ramps if i manually shift and wind it up to 4000 at the shifts. My 78 is my show piece, my 85 my daily driver.
Wodnek
__________________
1959 Gravely LI, 1963 Gravely L8, 1973 Gravely C12 1982 380SL 1978 450 SEL 6.9 euro restoration at 63% and climbing 1987 300 D 2005 CDI European Delivery 2006 CDI Handed down to daughter 2007 GL CDI. Wifes |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
96 & 97 OM 606 non-turbo models are quite acceptable!
Best Regards, Jim |
#6
|
||||
|
||||
For two lane blacktop commute to work (3 redlights, 18 miles, 55 mph speed limit) I like the non turbo. If I need to get on the interstate I take the turbo model.
__________________
Jim |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Diesels are great, and turbos make them better.
As RT said, it depends on where you live, the type of driving that you're going to do, and the amount performance that you're willing to accept. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
I have both and that includes one of the slowest MB diesels (my 240D) and one of the fastest (my 87 300D). I find the 240D to have adequate power even up here at 5000 ft. Sure I usually have the pedal to the floor while accelerating, but then again this keeps all the pipes clean. One place I wouldn't take my 240D is up to Mt. Rose at 9000 ft if I had more than one passenger, but other than that I wouldn't hesitate to take it anywhere. The bottom line is the non-turbos will make it to most places, but they are significantly weaker in acceleration compared to the turbos. The turbos are especially great for mountain driving.
__________________
2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual) Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
It's not a question which is best, but which is best suited for you and your particular needs. If your always traveling in short distances and not in a hurry then non-Turbo. However, the Turbo is good for short or long distances. I've driven both and I pefer the Turbo.
|
#10
|
|||
|
|||
we like
our cars. turbo offers the chance to be on the radar.
__________________
currently [1981 300 td tdidi 165500 dark brown/palamino-Brownie-mine-3k miles of ownership 1983 240d 162+++ Anthricite grey w/ henna red interior and hella lights-wifes car-Red the above two cars are for sale and can be seen on the cars for sale thread here. pix also available. 240d-144+ Manilla Yellow w/ palmino interior-greasecar kit-Blondie-the college kids car 23" gt 21 speed still on original tires-still got the nubs 21" khs tandem |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
If you are looking for performance you need the turbo. If you are looking for transportation then buy the car that is in the best condition with or without a turbo. If you see a creampuff at a real good price either buy it or post it here.
|
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Thanks!
I appreciate all the feedback. From what I had read earlier, it sounded like maybe there might be some drawbacks to having a turbo, such as heavier, louder, more maintenance, but from you guys said, it doesn't sound like it.
Thanks again. |
Bookmarks |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
5cy Turbo D, Too much Turbo Whistle? | coachgeo | Tech Help | 4 | 03-02-2005 02:35 AM |
Turbo Replacement | kevinaw | Diesel Discussion | 3 | 12-11-2002 03:22 PM |
Turbo Trouble | patterson | Diesel Discussion | 20 | 10-02-2002 12:05 PM |
turbo 16v | jasondew | Mercedes-Benz Performance Paddock | 4 | 03-27-2002 08:16 AM |
Turbo Failure after 200 miles | 300sdlguy | Tech Help | 6 | 05-29-1999 08:40 PM |