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Old 02-21-2005, 03:36 PM
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That car is beautiful

I recall reading in another thread about the 350sd's engine. The quote was something like "Run away now!". Was that sentiment reflective of all of that series or just the earlier ones? I have always been a fan of the big S bodies, having had a 560SEL for over 150k miles. It had the hydraulic suspension and I never had problems with it. Was that something that was specially ordered?
I may just bid anyway, my 99 E300 is pushing 150k.
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The hydraulic suspension was optional.

The problem with that engine, from everything I've read is that you just don't know if the one you're looking at will go bad on you or not. Several go bad before 80K, some around 150K - 200K, and others never. You just can't tell. Here's what I've told myself: don't make a multi-thousand dollar mistake! Stay away!
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:31 PM
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interest is strong.

I am really surprised at the level of interest in this car.

I have a strong offer that has been put in front of me today.
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I am really surprised at the level of interest in this car.

I have a strong offer that has been put in front of me today.
Aw, just let it run. Unless that offer is above $18K, I would love to see where it tops out at.
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Old 02-21-2005, 11:35 PM
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The self leveling rear suspension was standard on the 560 and supposidly you could get it on other models. But every 420 and 300 SEL I have ever seen has had shocks in back.

$18k is a lot for a W126 but if I was going to buy another that would be the condition I would be looking for.

Snibble just got a 1990 560SEL with 67k miles on it, and in just as good of shape, for around $10k or maybe less if I remember correctly. He didn't say exactly what he paid.
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Old 02-22-2005, 07:37 AM
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Values aren't determined by what people think they should be, they are determined by what people are willing to pay for the goods/services in question. In this case, I too think $18K is way too much for a 15 year old W126 diesel sedan even if it has only 72K miles on it. However, if someone is willing to pay it, then that's fine. That's how the market goes. Good for the seller anyway.
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:03 AM
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I agree with your statement

I too, believe that a value is what someone is willing to pay.

It's interesting to see all of the bidders who come out of the woodwork for a low mileage reagan-era car.

There is a great deal more pressure on the price with this w126 than I have ever experienced with the w140 (even when they were nearly new, I had to beg people to buy them). The W126 seems to attract an older customer , typically, with deeper pockets , who will simply pay , for what he or she wants. In this case I think that the mileage is driving the price.

The car has surprised me quite a bit because I initially had targeted a lower sales price. In my mind a w140 should be worth more..Shows what I know!
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:53 AM
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Herb your right W140's have no resale! It is amazing how much W140 you can get for under $20k. I guess they have a bad reputation. On the other hand W220's seem to be holding their value well.

Well if I had deep pockets and wanted a nice W126 I wouldn't think twice about dropping $20k on one. $20k on a used S class vs dropping $80k on a new one.
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Old 02-22-2005, 01:08 PM
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W220's are falling off pretty hard too!

I bought a 2000 S500V a few months back with 100k for $22k. I had the window sticker where the prior owner had shelled out $88k + Tax for the privilege just 40 months prior.

I had a hell of a time selling the car, and while it was neat, and fun to drive, it just didn't feel like it was going to be around in ten more years. I had the idea that it would probably be "recycled" by then....No permanence.

I had a 2000 S430 as a daily driver for a while and I sold it last month on ebay for $33,500 or so. It only had 34k miles... I bought it in Oct '03 for $42k when it had 12k miles and spent another 2k on stock wheels and tires...so it was roughly $700 /mo to putt around in a 220. Not a bad car mind you, but very Chrysler like...got scary when out of warranty..
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The W220 will be around for a very long time. There are so many features engineered into that car that will make it last forever. And I don't mean gadgets, I mean stuff like the way the frame was built, the suspension, etc.

The general theory is that ALL cars depreciate like junk these days. With the auto industry producing 50 million cars a year, that's no surprise. Additionally, luxury cars used to have very high resale values, but now I can't even count the number of luxury car brands out there. These things are bound to depreciate. Which is good for me as I search for my dream W140 S600.
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Old 02-22-2005, 06:46 PM
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I am pretty sure the cannister you see in the engine pix is for the ASD or the automatic locking differential. The odometer has the ASD warning lamp at the 12 o'clock position.

iT IS suppose to help traction automatically.

There was NO hydro pneumatic suspension offered in that vehicle that year.

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The car has asd and self leveling suspension. I have the car and I'm 100% sure that it is equipped with both. Perhaps it was a special order, but it has self leveling suspension.
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Old 02-22-2005, 07:59 PM
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Why do these 350 cars sell for so much? They go for more than double what gassers with similar miles/model year go for.

Is it because people think they will somehow save $5,000 in fuel? (false)

Is it because they think the diesel will last longer? (false)

Is it because they are rare, and as a result, more desirable?

Is it the music?

Is it the diesel fumes?

Personally, I never thought the diesel sound/smoke meshed well with the elegant styling of the 126- diesels are for boats and taxi cab E cars. Just my opinion..

So what is it about these cars that doubles their value?
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Just went through my owner's manual: the container in the engine compartment is for the ASD fluid. THere is NO self leveling system on the car according to my manual...

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Old 02-22-2005, 09:26 PM
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Well the rear bumper bounce test will tell you if their are socks back their pretty fast. I have heard of one 300SDL and a few 350's with this option it seems rare though.

Diesel MB's fetch a large premium over their gas counterparts. I think it is stupid with the newer cars, why pay tons of money for a diesel W210 unless you just have to have a diesel. For the same money you could get one with 1/2 the mileage and a few years newer with a V6 or 8.
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