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Old 03-08-2005, 11:54 PM
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Trying to make it less of a hazard...

Gone back to driving the 240D for this week, is there adjustments that can be done to give it better acceleration'? It's got a new factory rebuilt trans in it, 215K on the engine and new timing chain.

I drove a 103,000 mi 240D once that was 'blazingly fast' compared to this one!

Also contemplating selling this car, although I probably shouldn't, It been the least hassle of all of mine, and the most dependable (hence why I am driving it currently ) Anyways, we've owned it since new, anyone interested?

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:31 AM
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Gone back to driving the 240D for this week, is there adjustments that can be done to give it better acceleration'? It's got a new factory rebuilt trans in it, 215K on the engine and new timing chain.

I drove a 103,000 mi 240D once that was 'blazingly fast' compared to this one!

Also contemplating selling this car, although I probably shouldn't, It been the least hassle of all of mine, and the most dependable (hence why I am driving it currently ) Anyways, we've owned it since new, anyone interested?

I wish I could afford another one. The 240 I have (that was a SLUG when I bought it, but now is faster than ANY of the 300D and Turbo's that come to me) is the most reliable that I have too, but it's a 4-speed. I don't think I'd own a 240 with an auto. First thing I'd do if I could get yours for a reasonable price is pull the auto, sell it and install a manual. Which BTW, I have four of currently and will be posting one for sale next few days!!????!?!??
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:35 AM
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The first / cheapest / easy thing to try is Diesel Purge... do a search for procedure ( although it is also listed on the side of can and in the Performance Products paper catalog ). Lots of people including me report smoother running immediately after using it directly into the injection pump....
Two cans runs about $20.
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:14 AM
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It had been in the family since new, cost $16,000 and a 1968 VW trade in...

here's some more pictures:












the downside is rust is starting to get at the body panels. nothing to serious, floorpans all still intact. I had a front left tire blow out in 2001 at 80mph but stayed inflated with a 1ft long piece of loose tread slaping around untill I could stop. A/C compressor works, still currently off the car since I did the timing chain, I've been looking for a new condenser, and hadn't put the compressor back on.

The nice part? The engine is BONE DRY on the outside. no leaks! The trans might have some of the 2yr 24K warranty on it still as well, I'd have to check.

The interior is perfect
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:30 AM
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The first / cheapest / easy thing to try is Diesel Purge... do a search for procedure ( although it is also listed on the side of can and in the Performance Products paper catalog ). Lots of people including me report smoother running immediately after using it directly into the injection pump....
Two cans runs about $20.
Not quite.

The first / cheapest / easy thing to do is to make sure that the IP moves to the full load position whenever the accelerator pedal is mashed to the floor. There is a rubber or plastic throttle linkage pivot block at the firewall which is prone to breaking; when this happens you will not get full power...a routine issue with older MBZ diesels.

Search the forum for threads on "throttle pivot" for more.
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Old 03-09-2005, 09:28 AM
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I wish I could afford another one. The 240 I have (that was a SLUG when I bought it, but now is faster than ANY of the 300D and Turbo's that come to me) is the most reliable that I have too, but it's a 4-speed. I don't think I'd own a 240 with an auto. First thing I'd do if I could get yours for a reasonable price is pull the auto, sell it and install a manual. Which BTW, I have four of currently and will be posting one for sale next few days!!????!?!??
Are the 240 autos and the 300 NA/Turbo autos the same? Are the 300 NA autos the same as the 300 Turbo autos?
If my auto goes out I will replace it with a manual transmission I think. The trouble with that is the manuals are in short supply. I know where one is at a junkyard right now however. What's involved in rebuilding a manual tranny?
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You asking about the comparison of the auto transmissions between these cars ?
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Old 03-09-2005, 09:56 AM
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The trouble with that is the manuals are in short supply.

How many do you want?
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:23 AM
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Are the 240 autos and the 300 NA/Turbo autos the same? Are the 300 NA autos the same as the 300 Turbo autos?
If my auto goes out I will replace it with a manual transmission I think. The trouble with that is the manuals are in short supply. I know where one is at a junkyard right now however. What's involved in rebuilding a manual tranny?
If the manual in the yard is a unit contruct (cast iron center section, alum tail and bellhouse) get there posthaste and snag it. They are getting rare.

I had four in the basement at one time, two of which I rebuilt for another forum member, one that I just finished for my own project (or probably to sell and use the other on the project since it's still somewhat winter here!):



And one that is currently being torn down for rebuild:



The rebuild on these is pretty straight forward, I can get parts, but some have to come from Germany (at least they're still available.)

The alum case (from about 1979 or '80-on) are a little more of a PITA to rebuild, but I've done enough of them and made some specialty tools for them that they aren't a problem.

Lots of resources here and you can email a number of us who have done the rebuild if you get stuck. Email me for a re-seal/gasket set for all the seals and gaskets needed (the least I would do on a tranny I was going to adapt into a car.)
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Old 03-09-2005, 01:24 PM
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It is a big job to change a car to make it a little faster, it is much easier to change your mind and accept it the way it is. It is amazing what you can adjust to with with the right attitude.

I wouldn't put much money or work in a car that is showing rust problems. These guys know their stuff and they make a good point on the transmission retrofit but I don't think it is the answer for a rusty car.

Learn to take your injectors apart and clean them. This is something that makes a huge difference in the way the car runs and is simple enough to do on the side of the road somewhere.

If you are going to do major work like a transmission retrofit, you may as well drop in a 5-cyl while you are at it.
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:03 PM
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I can get parts, but some have to come from Germany (at least they're still available.)
Who is your source in Germany?
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:19 PM
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Keep the car. You guys have had it since new and that's not something too many of us can claim. Like TwitchKitty suggests, pull the injectors and clean them manually by taking each one apart individually and soaking them one at a time in carb cleaner. Diesel purge does nothing compared to soaking them in carb cleaner. I did it and had a noticeable difference. I do have a 300D turbo but I'm sure that you can get good results as well.
Do look for that broken plastic piece near the pedal also.
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Old 03-09-2005, 08:11 PM
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Now who the hell hijacked my thread?!

The linkages were all fine, that was one of the first things I did years ago.

I had a set of new reman dealer injectors bought about two years ago. I put them in the car tonight- night and day difference, like it's a different car. I should have done that after I first got them! Its noticibly quicker, and I am AMAZED at the fact at 60mph going uphill it doesn't lose speed anymore but will slowly increase! lmao! No noticible smoke at highway speeds anymore either.

I offered to possibly sell it for two reasons. It rarely gets driven anymore and space is a commodity around here

Like I said, I'll entertain any offers if someone wants it.
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Old 03-09-2005, 09:31 PM
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I want the old injectors if you feel like mailing them. I need some spares.

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