What the heck does "A high a price for the typical..." mean?

You go to all the trouble making a web site, then don't bother to proofread...

Sure, the car is nice, but his price is through the roof.
Thats the kind of car you buy, then notice all the little imperfections, making you wonder why in the world you would spend that kind of money on one car when you could have had 3.....

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300CD '80 (now gone but not forgotten...)

I'm with the consensus. 118K? 18,000?? no thanks, no matter how nice he says it is.

In other news we had two gems in this week from the same owner:
1988 560SL 7,500mi
1988 300SE 12,000mi

The cars looked and rode like they were brand new, amazing.
I'm sure either of those would have no problems fetching a price of 18K or higher

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1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350

I would think that the 617 life span is longer than the 603 ONLY because it is harder to screw up (overheat & crack the head). However, if you don't overheat the 603, who is to say. All I know is that the 603 transforms the W126 into a different and I think better car. I plan to keep my car a long time and if I have to buy a head in the future, the car is worth it. When the car was new, it used about 1/3 - 1/2 qt of oil in 3000 miles. Today, it uses 1/3 - 1/2 qt per 3000 mi. (Rotella T)

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Paul 1987 300 SDL; 2000 ML; '69 MGB; '68 VW Fastback

Another nice SDL

http://freemanmotorco.com/vehicle.php?vid=1109642304

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'82 240D 160k auto
'93 Dodge Cummins 48k

Freeman probably bought or traded it for about $5000. But, for 7-9 grand, it may be a good deal, if it is in good shape. The engine should be good for another 100,000+ miles. It's hard to find any used car under 10 grand that should last a 100,000 mi. Just my 2 cents worth.

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Paul 1987 300 SDL; 2000 ML; '69 MGB; '68 VW Fastback

Bah the 603 will last just as long if not longer then the 617. I have never heard of someone wearing out a properly taken care of diesel.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Having spent most of my life in the trucking industry (most of the time as a factory marketing rep.), I've seen many diesels wear out. And, something in the engine can break. But, most cars don't go the high mileage as commercial trucks, so your statment as regarding only cars is, in general, true. Just change the oil regularly - and the air filter. Have a great day.

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Paul 1987 300 SDL; 2000 ML; '69 MGB; '68 VW Fastback

I would venture to say 90% of MB's in junk yards are their because of:
1. rust
2. accidents
3. poor/no maintaince

10% or less probably have properly taken care of but shot engines.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Interesting. Makes me want to look at an SDL now...



Yup, most I see here got hit hardcore from one side or the other. Or just were total crapboxes... poor paint, interior gone, etc.

One here ('82) has about 220K mi on it, timing chain is still fine along with the rest of the driveline but poor body. There's an '85 SD with airbag in it that's VERY clean and I'm clueless as to why it's out there. Clean paint, motor looks like it was taken care of, and all. Has 309K mi on it... very odd. I want to pop the valve cover to see if the timing chain snapped. Even the turbo spins great.

Rust in the south doesn't happen much.

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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG]

603's definitely seem to start better. Mine starts with under 1 second of cranking at 0F. It stumbles and smokes but the 617 you have to give it some throttle and nurture it to get it started that cold. I like the serp. belt of a 603. You can change it way faster than the v-belts on a 617. Also, a 603 starter could be replaced in 1/10,000 the effort it takes to remove one on a 617. If you've had to do a 617 starter you know what I mean. I had to take it to a mechanic because I couldn't get the right wrenches on it. Some things are better about a 617 like...ahhh...the iron head. I have 250k on my -14 head an going strong.

Thanks
David

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2000 Honda Accord V6 137k miles

1972 300SEL 4.5 98k miles

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I've yet to change that Rock Dampner Bolt in my 617 to see how that helps it start cold. I do agree about the V-belts, they're old school allright.

The starter I've read is hard and seems to be in a precarious position but I've pulled one out from inbetween a full length header and a vehicle's frame so I'm sure with patience it can be done.

From the pics of the 603s head it did look like it was aluminum, I guess that is true. Best thing just after a long run just let it sit and cool for a minute or so before shutting down is what I'd do...

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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG]

In response to the question raised by Hatterasguy, The radiator is not original. The radiator was replaced 7/31/95 at 70,760 miles. The viscous thermal fan clutch was replaced 8/11/95 at 70,811 miles. The most recent repair was a new starter 2/19/05 at 117,922 miles.

Bill Moore

1987 300SDL
1998 E-430 Sport
2004 Land Cruiser
Just sold 1992 Jeep Wrangler to a fellow in Atlanta

A high price for the typical means just what it says. $18,750 is a high price to pay for what is typically available to purchase in a 18 or 19 year old 300SDL. This one is not typical, it is far above typical. BTW, there ARE no little imperfections and everything works perfectly.

Bill

Or typically someone wouldn't pay such a high price for something that not worth that much unless that person had an unusual amount of disposable income

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97 S500
97 E300D
86 Holden Jackaroo Turbo D
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I've read about too many 603s that consume a small amount of oil, such as yours which is barely used. That really surprises me because my 300SD with 163K on the engine doesn't even consume a drop. When nothing is leaking (which is not the case at this moment), the oil level stays exactly the same until its time for a change. I've checked this many times to ensure I was being accurate and there really is no oil consumption.

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1999 Mercedes-Benz S600, 103K miles - garage queen
1988 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL, 89K miles - daily driver
2007 Hyundai Sonata Limited, 31K - daily driver