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Old 04-22-2005, 12:36 AM
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Who was looking for the 300D NA IP??

Someone had a post here about a bad 300D non-turbo IP and they needed a replacement, don't remember what thread it was?

Finally un-buried the one I have and took some pics for you to match up.

Again, it was "supposed" to be good, but no guarantees. Email me with questions or at least LMK if you've found one so I can trash this post.







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Old 04-22-2005, 01:25 AM
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Hey Tom,
That was me. Do you know the year of the car that your pump was pulled from? I went to a website where they sell rebuilt IPs, and they seem to lump them into 77-79, and 80-81 for the non-turbo 300D.
The pump from my '77 has 350 on the plate nearest the firewall end of IP, and my '80 had 375.
My mechanic is going to put on an IP he has from a '79 300CD and see what happens. He said if that doesn't fix the car then he is not going to charge me for any labor associated with the removal and installation of the pumps. Fair enough I thought.
So at this point, even if it isn't the correct pump, it might let him know if the IP is truly the problem. If it was/is, and I end up needing a correct pump, we can go from there.
My mechanic I believe is doing me right. If it takes care of the problem, great! If it doesn't fix it, he is out the time of his labor, and I'm still just out his very fair diagnostic fee, and he will keep looking.
Can you take a close up of the plate closest to the shutoff end of the IP. That is the plate with the 350/or/375 data.
And by the way, thanks so much for the effort of digging up the pump and photo-ing it. I may still need it, I'm just in a holding pattern until I hear something more.

**edit**I just read the link I provided, and see that your IP is from and '80. Duh... That would be correct. I will let you know something when my mechanic lets me know something. I'm very appreciative!

May need IP for '80 300TD
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'85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White
'80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed
'81 300TD 240K "Smash"
'80 240D 230K "The Squash"
'81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John
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Old 04-22-2005, 10:07 AM
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Hey Tom,
That was me. Do you know the year of the car that your pump was pulled from? I went to a website where they sell rebuilt IPs, and they seem to lump them into 77-79, and 80-81 for the non-turbo 300D.
The pump from my '77 has 350 on the plate nearest the firewall end of IP, and my '80 had 375.
My mechanic is going to put on an IP he has from a '79 300CD and see what happens. He said if that doesn't fix the car then he is not going to charge me for any labor associated with the removal and installation of the pumps. Fair enough I thought.
So at this point, even if it isn't the correct pump, it might let him know if the IP is truly the problem. If it was/is, and I end up needing a correct pump, we can go from there.
My mechanic I believe is doing me right. If it takes care of the problem, great! If it doesn't fix it, he is out the time of his labor, and I'm still just out his very fair diagnostic fee, and he will keep looking.
Can you take a close up of the plate closest to the shutoff end of the IP. That is the plate with the 350/or/375 data.
And by the way, thanks so much for the effort of digging up the pump and photo-ing it. I may still need it, I'm just in a holding pattern until I hear something more.

**edit**I just read the link I provided, and see that your IP is from and '80. Duh... That would be correct. I will let you know something when my mechanic lets me know something. I'm very appreciative!

May need IP for '80 300TD
Came from the 1980 300D I parted out, but you should still check on the #'s. Sounds like a good mechanic (rare one these days), let us know if this fixes your issue, I always wanted to rebuild this one anyway, just to play with it.
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Old 04-22-2005, 11:49 AM
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I've got an IJP still attached to my old 617 from a '78 300D. Let me know if you want that one. Unless Tom needs it with the engine.
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Old 04-22-2005, 05:49 PM
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BTW, the tag says it's a 375.
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:04 PM
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Tom, you have another pm

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BTW, the tag says it's a 375.
OK yall, another nondescript IP question. To quickly review, I'm looking for an IP for my '80 wagon. Bosch plate had "KW 375\2200MW 27.1" That 375 we are assuming has something to do with delivery volume, or somesuch. On a website I visited who sold IP's, for NA 300D's, it is broken up into '77-79' and '80-81'. The difference seems to be that 375/350 difference, and 135 bar/115 bar injectors.
Someone emailed me who is familiar with MB's, and said I could use the IP from a turbo (also marked 375) and "circumvent the boost limiter" and "leave the idle up booster disconnected". He said otherwise they are similiar. But seems like there are alda(would that be boost limiter) differences amongst other conflicts.
Any feedback would sure be appreciated. My mechanic is sick of my wagon, and I would like it back (working, that is).
Tom, I still think you are my best bet!
What do yall think??
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'80 240D 230K "The Squash"
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:07 PM
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I'll post the number on the IJP I have. I would hesitate to try to adapt an IJP designed for a turbo, but only because I don't know enough about the differences between the pumps.
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:10 PM
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I've got an IJP still attached to my old 617 from a '78 300D. Let me know if you want that one. Unless Tom needs it with the engine.
Gosh Old300D,
I sure didn't mean to ignore your previous post. Blame it on tunnell vision. I think your IP from your '78 would be the same as mine from my '77, which isn't the same as my '80.
Did anybody else get that???
Thanks so much for the offer, and no slight intended.
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'85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:07 AM
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OK yall, another nondescript IP question. To quickly review, I'm looking for an IP for my '80 wagon. Bosch plate had "KW 375\2200MW 27.1" That 375 we are assuming has something to do with delivery volume, or somesuch. On a website I visited who sold IP's, for NA 300D's, it is broken up into '77-79' and '80-81'. The difference seems to be that 375/350 difference, and 135 bar/115 bar injectors.
Someone emailed me who is familiar with MB's, and said I could use the IP from a turbo (also marked 375) and "circumvent the boost limiter" and "leave the idle up booster disconnected". He said otherwise they are similiar. But seems like there are alda(would that be boost limiter) differences amongst other conflicts.
Any feedback would sure be appreciated. My mechanic is sick of my wagon, and I would like it back (working, that is).
Tom, I still think you are my best bet!
What do yall think??
Any ideas??

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'95 E300 188K "Batmobile" Texas Unfriendly Black
'85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White
'80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed
'81 300TD 240K "Smash"
'80 240D 230K "The Squash"
'81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John
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