I was having fun yesterday in my 1985 300SD. Put the car in L and mashed the accelerator pedal as I was making a left turn, the rear end broke loose, and I fish-tailed around the corner. The pavement was wet. I have heard my car chrip when shifting. Are these symptoms of a fine running diesel, i.e., if your diesel can't chirp tires or lose traction, are you under-fueled?

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marty

When it is wet it is very easy to fishtail around... the only time my tires chirped when (up)shifting though was when my transmission shifted unnecessarily hard due to vacuum leaks and such...and even then it would only be on near full acceleration during turns.

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1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi

With my old tires (Futura Plus Touring SE) I could completely spin out the right rear tire from a sitting stop on wet pavement if I mashed the pedal (yes they did still have tread) It'd keep making noise and such until I let off the accelerator. Not good tires! My new goodyear assurance tires are darn well close to impossible to break loose, its like they're glued to the road.

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'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

A 220D will do a burnout if you cover the ground with greasy BB's LOL.

oh yeah,they spin like crazy on my 98 e300 td with Upsolute chip (around 210HP)

Well, I can tell you that the 300SDL is not going to be spinning any tires any time soon.

But, I can tell you that I took it 50 miles through heavy rain yesterday on the local expressways. The typical roads that accumulate patches of standing water in spots and all the *********s drive 45 mph in all three lanes.

Well, once the traffic thinned a bit, I took it up to 65 mph to see how it would do. It's got almost brand new Michelin Hydroedge tires on it and the feeling is one of a bulldozer going down the road. Never once did it feel like it might want to slide and it hit some pretty good patches of water along the way.

Passed every single $hitbox on the road.

From a dead stop no, but I can slide the tail around without much of a problem. My tires are also a bit sticker then stock.


My friends E300D without a chip will spin both tires from a dead stop in the dry.

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1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Nah, these are symptoms of very low traction...

Best Regards,
Jim

in the 87 300D, it will break loose from a stop on dry pavement when turning. Have since replaced the rear tires- dunno if it still will or not.

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1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350

yes on gravel, loose dirt and occasionally on slimy wet pavement.

90 350sdl, 83 240/300d, 82 300cd, 82 240d.

now the 03 dodge cummins will spin them on dry pavement by accident and with my 9000 # trailer attached. oh yea i also spun them on wet pavement while pulling a hill with my trailer attached in 5th gear (of 6)

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Last night I was making a U-turn and it was pouring rain. Midway into the turn I floored it, and my tail flipped out, I countersteered and let the pedal go a bit, and off I went back on my way. Happens easily in the rain even w/ Goodyear Regatta 2 tires. On dry pavement, I can make the tires chirp when shifting 1-2 only in turns. Used to be able to do that all the time w/ old, dry tired (Metros).

'83 300D Turbo

Yes, when I go in reverse.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

standard operating procedure:
1) Light turns green
2)Floor it
3) Wait
4)Take a sip of coffee
5)Let off when nearing required speed.
6)Enjoy the ride.

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Current money-pits:
96 Passat TDI
78 300D 100k miles(60miles/day)FOR SALE
91 Jetta Diesel 250k miles (80miles/day)
82 Toyota Diesel pickup 150k miles; out of service for a little while with a valve problem.
All on BelenBioDiesel
Past diesels:
01 Golf TDI
81 Isuzu P/U
85 Jetta
89 KW 425 cat
85 Pete 400 cat (currently still running the west coast with over 1.5 million miles)
81 KW 400 Cummins
77 Freightliner CO ???? Cummins (Buttercup)
57 180D lots of miles(gone but not forgotten)

Tire spin very nicely with snow on the street. Otherwise, NO.

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'83 240D with 617.952 and 2.88
'01 VW Beetle TDI
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD
'89 Toyota 4x4, needs 2L-T
'78 280Z with L28ET - 12.86@110
Oil Burner Kartel #35

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I can spin, fishtail, and 180 all I want... When it's snowing.

I did do a 180 by accident after a hard rain when I floored it in a tight turn.