does anyone know the mileage of the replaced step vans fed ex and ups use/d?

i think we covered this somewhere and there was a link to a dieselhead engine board.

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[1981 300 td tdidi 165500 dark brown/palamino-Brownie-mine-3k miles of ownership
1983 240d 162+++ Anthricite grey w/ henna red interior and hella lights-wifes car-Red

the above two cars are for sale
and can be seen on the cars for sale thread here. pix also available.


240d-144+ Manilla Yellow w/ palmino interior-greasecar kit-Blondie-the college kids car

23" gt 21 speed still on original tires-still got the nubs
21" khs tandem

Cool. I could use it with a tow dolly to tow old benzes if I wanted a parts or project car. I was afraid of maintenance. I bet to get competent maintenance you would have to go to an MB dealer that has a CDI mechanic. That would certainly lighten your wallet unless it was a warranty issue and they would fix it at the MB dealer.

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My Daily : 96 E-300 Diesel with 195,000 miles
Retired: 92 300D 2.5 T 345K miles and for sale
Retired: 95 E320 157K miles and currently parked with blown engine

Both retired cars are for sale as is my w124 shop inventory

As hard as it is to imagine them turning away your money, the M-B dealer won't work on this, Jim. I guarantee it. We know it is a M-B van, but in N. America it is sold and serviced by Dodge and Freightliner dealers only, on behalf of DaimlerChrysler Vans, LLC, a subsidiary set up for this new business. MBUSA has a reputation (what's left of it) to protect as a purveyor of LUXURY automobiles. They would rather Americans don't even know that they make trucks.
It's the same (but sort of backwards) as Toyota launching a new LUXURY brand called Lexus. Lexus exists to dissociate those cars from Toyota, which means "economy cars" to Americans. I doubt if you will find any reference to Toyota in a Lexus dealership. They don't mind being associated with Toyota quality, but to maintain their Dr. and lawyer customer base, they need to keep their distance. In Japan, there is no Lexus. The cars are Toyotas.

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'88 300SEL
'92 300D 2.5 Turbo
'96 Lincoln Town Car. The Jazzmobile.

That is not surprising. The worrying here is finding a competent diesel mechanic if there is a problem. I am sure the USA branch has trained some techs on the sprinter diesels. I'm just guessing the MBUSA techs got better training. I have read somewhere of one person who said they have had a bunch of egr valves on her sprinter. That tells me that the egr valve is not the problem. I suppose it is always a risk if you buy a vehicle is a little out of the mainstream at least in the US.

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My Daily : 96 E-300 Diesel with 195,000 miles
Retired: 92 300D 2.5 T 345K miles and for sale
Retired: 95 E320 157K miles and currently parked with blown engine

Both retired cars are for sale as is my w124 shop inventory

I bet our dealership would work on the engine in a sprinter, they work on volvo's....vw's....mercedes....even some american cars are around there sometimes. They have a HUGE facility....so its not really an issue.

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'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

They have a reputation for eating up EGR valves. The newer ones have water cooled EGR's. I've read on the Yahoo siprinter group that the EGR's can be cleaned and reinstalled.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

I dunno much about Sprinters other than I like 'em! Since I have been paying more attention to them recently I have noticed the turbo whine is very pronounced and quite loud. It can be easily heard when they accelerate in traffic. Very cool. RT

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84' Mercedes Benz 300D Anthracite/black, 171K
03' Volkswagen Jetta TDI blue/black, 93K
93' Chevrolet C2500HD ExCab 6.5TD, Two-tone blue, 252K

I joined sprintervans. which is the best group I see a couple on yahoo. I assume that turbo is the same as the E320 cdi only sized to the smaller engine? The biggest snafu sounds like that the electrical system faults and it has to be reset though that sounds like it only happens once in a blue moon but can be handled smoothly. I read a few posts complaining about rumble strip braking but ABS systems have always done funny stuff like that. To me that is normal. Those things are cool.

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My Daily : 96 E-300 Diesel with 195,000 miles
Retired: 92 300D 2.5 T 345K miles and for sale
Retired: 95 E320 157K miles and currently parked with blown engine

Both retired cars are for sale as is my w124 shop inventory

The '04 vans got a new EGR valve/actuator as well as a new head, turbo, and injection. Then they made a running change to the EGR valve/actuator (valve hardware + actuator electronics), and our '04 van got upraded to that setup through a recall campaign. So I think our van's EGR may be as robust as it's going to get. But I still think the problems inherent to EGR haven't gone away and won't until they run low-pressure loop EGR with a close-coupled particulate filter (at the turbine outlet); EGR is pulled from downstream of the filter, making it pretty much soot-free. I read on the Sprinter group site that someone is recommending cleaning the EGR valve with "carb cleaner plus graphite (?) every 20k miles. Indeed cleaning the EGR valve may make it stay healthier, but my concern is the EGR transfer tube, intake valves, etc. I've seen the deposits and the damage they caused to the valve train of an EGR-equipped 1980's S-class Diesel, and it wasn't pretty. About $4000 worth from a very reasonable indy.

Buying "out of the mainstream" vehicles has always been my MO and what turns my crank. I love the challenge. But I also love doing my own work.

It sounds like maybe you could get an M-B stealer, er, uh, that is to say, um, dealer, to work on your Sprinter. If so, you will most likely get better service than from Dodge or Freightliner. Then again, they have been known to lead customers astray as much as any Detroit iron dealer. I've heard some stories!

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Now you're suckin' Diesel!

'88 300SEL
'92 300D 2.5 Turbo
'96 Lincoln Town Car. The Jazzmobile.

I know nothing about the engine, but they are seriously ugly vehicles. I work for Daimler Chrysler (not always a good thing) and they replaced our super selling D series van with this thing....phal

I was going to rent one and take it on a trip but we went to a dealer and the wife wasn't impressed. I'm happy with my SD as a daily driver so I am going to let her continue wracking up miles on the bonneville til it dies.

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My Daily : 96 E-300 Diesel with 195,000 miles
Retired: 92 300D 2.5 T 345K miles and for sale
Retired: 95 E320 157K miles and currently parked with blown engine

Both retired cars are for sale as is my w124 shop inventory

My 85 409d with the 617NA and 5 speed will be on the market shortly(probably). It's the precursor to the Sprinter. I've decided it's not big enough or powerful enough to tow our sailboat so I'm looking for a different motorhome.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

I am dissappointed to hear they will move to a v-configuration. Seems to me the best diesels are alays straight line configuration. They have less moving parts(estimated 20%) and the blocks are usually more more robust in the stright line. I do not like v-configuration diesels although I realie this is done successfully.

I wish I could afford to buy it. I'd love a sprinter type van.

My parents were considering a winnebago with this engine in it. It's a 1-ton chassis. They asked me to find out anything about em. They wouldn't be towing cross country but they're moving out to the virginia shore and might tow a boat from their house to a loading/unloading place.

I'm worried that if they come up 70 from utah the thing might be anemic on the passes. Does anyone know how the 2.7 turbo would pull a 12k pound vehicle up the passes? Thanks.
-Nate

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'82 240D, 4-speed, 617 turbo engine