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Old 05-12-2005, 03:56 PM
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The SD will be elgible for antique plates in about 20 months. The plates in CT say "Early American" at the bottom. Once I fix that, I wonder who if anyone will ever notice. The lettering is simply painted on. Years ago, I changed my plates from "Constitution State" to "Constipation State". The letters were thickly embossed, so it took a bit to do it neatly. Not one person ever picked up on it and actually said anything to me about it.

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Old 05-13-2005, 10:36 AM
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You definitely need to fix that "Early American" thing, although it never occurred to me to be changing my license plates.

My favorite license plate slogan is in Washington, D.C.: "Taxation without Representation", a reference to the outrageous denial of voting representation in Congress for citizens of D.C. There is no legitimate reason to deny them representation. The only reason the deplorable situation continues is that the Republicans know that representation for D.C. means an almost automatic, permanent Democrat seat in Congress. In other words, Republicans don't care about democracy, only power.
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Old 05-13-2005, 10:46 AM
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You definitely need to fix that "Early American" thing, although it never occurred to me to be changing my license plates.

My favorite license plate slogan is in Washington, D.C.: "Taxation without Representation", a reference to the outrageous denial of voting representation in Congress for citizens of D.C. There is no legitimate reason to deny them representation. The only reason the deplorable situation continues is that the Republicans know that representation for D.C. means an almost automatic, permanent Democrat seat in Congress. In other words, Republicans don't care about democracy, only power.

Thats becasue its not a state...its just a city......and a city does not = a state. Its the Democrats who are trying a power grab by fielding that arguement.

If they have problems let them vote under Marylands umbrella.......as DC was historically part of maryland.
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You definitely need to fix that "Early American" thing, although it never occurred to me to be changing my license plates.

My favorite license plate slogan is in Washington, D.C.: "Taxation without Representation", a reference to the outrageous denial of voting representation in Congress for citizens of D.C. There is no legitimate reason to deny them representation. The only reason the deplorable situation continues is that the Republicans know that representation for D.C. means an almost automatic, permanent Democrat seat in Congress. In other words, Republicans don't care about democracy, only power.
Well, maybe because like Guam or Puerto Rico, it's not a state, and also doesn't bear many of the responsibilities of a state. Besides, even though the region has benefitted enormously since its inception by being constructed with a cohesive plan and constantly infused with federal funds, it has managed to squander those resources relentlessly. If it were to be granted statehood, this unfair advantage would allow it to easily wrest the thorny crown of corruption from the Great State of Connecticut, which has struggled mightily to beat out such formidible contenders as RI and NJ!
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:01 PM
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License plate reading ___Historic?

By the time I get my Auto Trans rehabbed , dashfire damage and rewiring fixed and my cracked windshield replaced, my plates will read "PRE HISTORIC"

...sigh...I should have left the knocking engine alone, I probably damaged the AT Pump when i drained the entire AT system to changeout the engine...
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Old 05-13-2005, 04:32 PM
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Thats becasue its not a state...its just a city......and a city does not = a state.
It's true, that's how the Republicans get away with it, but those so-called conservatives are constantly proposing amendments to the Constitution, so why not amend the Constitution to give people the right to vote? Seems pretty basic to me. D.C. is not a state, but it has more citizens than Wyoming.
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Its the Democrats who are trying a power grab by fielding that arguement.
Since when is promoting democracy, with a small "d", a "power grab"?
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If they have problems let them vote under Marylands umbrella.......as DC was historically part of maryland.
That would be better than nothing.
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Well, maybe because like Guam or Puerto Rico, it's not a state, and also doesn't bear many of the responsibilities of a state. Besides, even though the region has benefitted enormously since its inception by being constructed with a cohesive plan and constantly infused with federal funds, it has managed to squander those resources relentlessly. If it were to be granted statehood, this unfair advantage would allow it to easily wrest the thorny crown of corruption from the Great State of Connecticut, which has struggled mightily to beat out such formidible contenders as RI and NJ!
DC has been given a lot of advantages, but I think it also operates under some significant disadvantages. Being the home of the federal government is a two-edged sword.

It is also true that DC government has given the appearance of being corrupt and incredibly inept, but that is no reason to deny them representation in Congress. I thought the right to vote was one of the main reasons for the American Revolution. Denying them that right is an outrage.
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DC has been given a lot of advantages, but I think it also operates under some significant disadvantages. Being the home of the federal government is a two-edged sword.

It is also true that DC government has given the appearance of being corrupt and incredibly inept, but that is no reason to deny them representation in Congress. I thought the right to vote was one of the main reasons for the American Revolution. Denying them that right is an outrage.
never bothered me.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:33 PM
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Plus you can get cheap insurance. $100 a year or something like that. Have to be liscensed for 10 years and can't commute or drive more than 2500 miles a year.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:35 PM
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It's true, that's how the Republicans get away with it, but those so-called conservatives are constantly proposing amendments to the Constitution, so why not amend the Constitution to give people the right to vote? Seems pretty basic to me. D.C. is not a state, but it has more citizens than Wyoming.
Since when is promoting democracy, with a small "d", a "power grab"?
That would be better than nothing.

It was maryland before it becasme the District......if anything it will become MD again .........its a Flyspeck...no way does it deserve statehood.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:40 PM
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... a reference to the outrageous denial of voting representation in Congress for citizens of D.C. There is no legitimate reason to deny them representation. The only reason the deplorable situation continues is that the Republicans know that representation for D.C. means an almost automatic, permanent Democrat seat in Congress. In other words, Republicans don't care about democracy, only power.
I they want to be represented like a state, then become a state. Then they'd have to be treated like a state. Loose a lot of special subsidies that way...

BTW: We live in a constitutionally limited republic, not a democracy. A democracy is mob rule.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:48 PM
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I they want to be represented like a state, then become a state. Then they'd have to be treated like a state. Loose a lot of special subsidies that way...

BTW: We live in a constitutionally limited republic, not a democracy. A democracy is mob rule.
Well DC was carved out of MD.....if its going to stop being what it was.it should revert back to MD.....like the southern part reverted back to VA some time ago. Anything else is a liberal gerymandering to get territory that was not historicly a seperate state.

In any case this is not the correct forum to be holding this discussion.
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Old 05-14-2005, 08:45 AM
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I they want to be represented like a state, then become a state. Then they'd have to be treated like a state. Loose a lot of special subsidies that way...

BTW: We live in a constitutionally limited republic, not a democracy. A democracy is mob rule.
I agree mplafleur. Anyone who says this is a democracy should recite the Pledge of Allegiance. I don't say, "and to the democracy for which it stands." Our TV news idiots have done a great disservice by instilling the word democracy into our heads that the average joe finally believes that this country is a democracy. Long live the Republic! BTW in North Dakota a car has to be 40 years old to get what we call Pioneer Plates. You can drive it as much as you want as long as it is insured. The plates are a one time fee and are for the life of the car.
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Here's RsMO 301.131:

Historic motor vehicles, permanent registration, fee--license plates--annual mileage allowed, record to be kept--penalty.
301.131. 1. Any motor vehicle over twenty-five years old which is owned solely as a collector's item and which is used and intended to be used for exhibition and educational purposes shall be permanently registered upon payment of a registration fee of twenty-five dollars. Upon the transfer of the title to any such vehicle the registration shall be canceled and the license plates issued therefor shall be returned to the director of revenue.

2. The owner of any such vehicle shall file an application in a form prescribed by the director, if such vehicle meets the requirements of this section, and a certificate of registration shall be issued therefor. Such certificate need not specify the horsepower of the motor vehicle.

3. The director shall issue to the owner of any motor vehicle registered pursuant to this section the same number of license plates which would be issued with a regular annual registration, containing the number assigned to the registration certificate issued by the director of revenue. Such license plates shall be made with fully reflective material with a common color scheme and design, shall be clearly visible at night, and shall be aesthetically attractive, as prescribed by section 301.130.

4. Historic vehicles may be driven to and from repair facilities one hundred miles from the vehicle's location, and in addition may be driven up to one thousand miles per year for personal use. The owner of the historic vehicle shall be responsible for keeping a log of the miles driven for personal use each calendar year. Such log must be kept in the historic vehicle when the vehicle is driven on any state road. The historic vehicle's mileage driven in an antique auto tour or event and mileage driven to and from such a tour or event shall not be considered mileage driven for the purpose of the mileage limitations in this section. Violation of this section is a class C misdemeanor and in addition to any other penalties prescribed by law, upon conviction thereof, the director of revenue shall revoke the historic motor vehicle license plates of such violator which were issued pursuant to this section.

5. Notwithstanding any provisions of this section to the contrary, any person possessing a license plate issued by the state of Missouri that is over twenty-five years old, in which the year of the issuance of such plate is consistent with the year of the manufacture of the vehicle, the owner of the vehicle may register such plate as an historic vehicle plate as set forth in subsections 1 and 2 of this section, provided that the configuration of letters, numbers or combination of letters and numbers of such plate are not identical to the configuration of letters, numbers or combination of letters and numbers of any plates already issued to an owner by the director. Such license plate shall not be required to possess the characteristic features of reflective material and common color scheme and design as prescribed in section 301.130. The owner of the historic vehicle registered pursuant to this subsection shall keep the certificate of registration in the vehicle at all times. The certificate of registration shall be prima facie evidence that the vehicle has been properly registered with the director and that all fees have been paid

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