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Old 05-17-2005, 09:28 AM
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My new purchase.... 190D 5 SPEED

I know that this thread is worthless without pics so I will take some later on and post it in here. Anyway, I found a deal of a life time. I know that all this seems too good but I checked the car up and down and the "RICH" guy has owned it for over 10 years and it was stored in the garage. All the scheduled maintenance was done at the dealer so I was pretty happy with that. The only thing that was giving me trouble with the car were the blinkers: they worked fine but then stopped working and the hazards work fine so it is probably just a switch.

Now the price details etc. 1985 190D 2.2 5 Speed 159k miles (Light Sky Blue) for 1800 dollars The body looks awesome and looks just like my dads 1992 300D. Thank god it was stored in a garage. The intereior is great with no rips and the radio and the climate control look brand new.

I was driving a 240D AUTO for the last two years so this car seems like a speed demon. I must truely say that it is like night and day.

I guess my manual tranny conversion on the 240D is out of the question. I am a bit dissapointed though because I had everything together which included new clutch, pressure plate etc. I had every single bolt and nut to complete the conversion since I bought a low mileage 240D (one owner) You guys probably remember that when I was parting it out. I will just put the kit on ebay so some enthusiast can put it on his 240D.

Oh yes, one more thing.... It took me over 9 long months to find this perfect car. It was located 32 miles from my home so I was surprised since I was looking all over the states.

Any tips on these cars ?

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Old 05-17-2005, 09:35 AM
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Wow! Nice ride.
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:44 AM
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I was driving a 240D AUTO for the last two years so this car seems like a speed demon. I must truely say that it is like night and day.

I guess my manual tranny conversion on the 240D is out of the question......
I will just put the kit on ebay so some enthusiast can put it on his 240D.
Why not first offer it here? Maybe someone who has helped you in the past needs one? Just a thought......

(FYI, I don't need one. This was not for my benefit)
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:50 AM
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Hazard switch

get some contact cleaner and spray the hazard switch, it should fix your blinkers, do a search, and good luck on the new car
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:52 AM
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I had the same car and have recently sold it. Great car. I don't know what your previous owner had maintained on the vehicle, but it should serve you well. Here are a few quick pointers:
-Rear differential goes out on these. Replace differential fluid with full synthetic right away. If it has not already been done. Mine started to go and it created a whirring noise which was extremely annoying.
-It will probably need new suspension if the stock hasn't been replaced. I had to replace my stock struts and shocks at 150,000 miles.
-The driveshaft support bearing will go. While you're at it, replace the complete driveshaft. There are about 3 u-joints that cause noise and once you replace the support bearing and 3 u-joints it will be very quiet.
-This car will rust like crazy. Make sure you wash inside the wheel wells and undercarriage.
-Watch for your master and slave cylinder on the clutch. You will know when it stops working because the clutch pedal will feel weird and you can't shift gears.
-Check your ball joints because these go. I had a wheel fall off one time, luckily I was going slow.
-Make sure you clean and lube the sunroof rails. It is expensive to replace the motor.
-Check your belt shock.
-Window motors will go... but that is typical for its age.
-In the winter time-Adjust your motorized seat without sitting in it. My motor didn't like the added weight when it was very cold out. I'm a fat guy, so that doesn't help either.
-Check your wheel bearings. I had a few of these go. One of them was a misdiagnosis of the driveshaft bearing.
-I never used synthetic engine oil. Just regular oil changes at 3,000 miles on the dot. Never had one oil leak.
-Check your vacuum pump which runs the ignition. This was my breaking point on selling the vehicle, plus all the rust.

Enjoy your new ride. You'll really like the fact that it get awesome MPG.
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:52 AM
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I know that this thread is worthless without pics so I will take some later on and post it in here. Anyway, I found a deal of a life time. I know that all this seems too good but I checked the car up and down and the "RICH" guy has owned it for over 10 years and it was stored in the garage. All the scheduled maintenance was done at the dealer so I was pretty happy with that. The only thing that was giving me trouble with the car were the blinkers: they worked fine but then stopped working and the hazards work fine so it is probably just a switch.

Now the price details etc. 1985 190D 2.2 5 Speed 159k miles (Light Sky Blue) for 1800 dollars The body looks awesome and looks just like my dads 1992 300D. Thank god it was stored in a garage. The intereior is great with no rips and the radio and the climate control look brand new.

I was driving a 240D AUTO for the last two years so this car seems like a speed demon. I must truely say that it is like night and day.

I guess my manual tranny conversion on the 240D is out of the question. I am a bit dissapointed though because I had everything together which included new clutch, pressure plate etc. I had every single bolt and nut to complete the conversion since I bought a low mileage 240D (one owner) You guys probably remember that when I was parting it out. I will just put the kit on ebay so some enthusiast can put it on his 240D.

Oh yes, one more thing.... It took me over 9 long months to find this perfect car. It was located 32 miles from my home so I was surprised since I was looking all over the states.

Any tips on these cars ?

I had a 190D('84)for a short time last year but it was not in the nice shape yours was in so it was sold in a short while. One thing you are going to love is the Fuel Mileage--absolutely great! I think sometimes my 190d(5 spd. also) got as good as mileage as my VW TDI in the city.Never checked (scientifically) mileage in the city but the 190D seemed to run forever on a Tank of diesel.Good Luck.
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The first, or one of the first MB diesels I went to look at to buy 5-6 years ago was an 84 190D 2.2 auto.. not too slow of a car. Must be nice with the 5-speed!
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Old 05-17-2005, 01:57 PM
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A 190D 2.2 is slow. Once it gets going on the highway, you will have no problem. Off the line, I can ride my bike faster in 0-25 mph. On the highway, I was able to get mine past 100mph. That took a few minutes though.
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Old 05-17-2005, 03:49 PM
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A 190D 2.2 is slow. Once it gets going on the highway, you will have no problem. Off the line, I can ride my bike faster in 0-25 mph. On the highway, I was able to get mine past 100mph. That took a few minutes though.
I don't think it's that slow at all. It is a race car compared to my 240D auto.
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Old 05-17-2005, 05:08 PM
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Kamil

Good score...On the flashers..Dont know about 190s but on the 123s there is a relay under the consol forward of the shifter. Its a little black plastic box. They cost about $40, but if the hazard switch is OK you might see if you have one of these relays.
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Old 05-17-2005, 07:46 PM
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thank you guys.... I just changed the hazard switch from a w123 and it works perfectly
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Does anyone know how much it costs to replace the wheel bearings in the rear of the car? I am looking at a high-mileage 190D 2.2L that needs the bearings reaplced in the rear for a safety inspection (please see my other post with the details of the car).

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Old 06-20-2005, 09:12 PM
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rust?

if the car is rust free, i would have it ziebarted. i had a clean california 240 115 ziebarted and proceeded to drive it for four years in snowy salty indiana and had only a little that formed on the edge of the wheel well where it caked up and i didnt notice it. my kids were driving it and didnt clean it diligently.
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I would LOVE to swap one of my '85 SD's for one of those.

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