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Old 06-03-2005, 08:36 AM
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Thank you retired MB engineers

If anyone has ever replaced the heater fan on a Volvo 240, you know that when they built the car, they suspended the heater fan from the ceiling until it was 2.3 feet off the floor and proceeded to build the car AROUND it. It is a two day job to replace it.

I had to replace the heater/ac fan on Hans a few days ago ($105 - http://www.benz-store.com/blower_motors.html).

It took me all of 30 minutes.

I figure the engineers who designed the 126 started sometime in the mid-70's and were in their 30's and 40's. They are now comfortably retired, drinking bier and eating bratwurst and have my thanks or their forward-thinking designs.

Hans is now eating a diet of 85% wvo and 15% kerosene. He's been doing this for 2000 miles now and loves it. After a hiway run, if I take my hands off the steering wheel, I can barely tell the engine is running, it's that smooth and quiet. My $250/month dino diesel habit is down to about $40 in kero. This summer, I'm going to be running straight wvo. It should take me another month to pay for my collection and filtering setup, and after that it's gravy.

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1981 300SD 188k (Hans) Killed by a deer
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:34 AM
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Perhaps you can also run the car on the gravy. I should really consider switching one of my cars over but the thought of having money in my wallet puts me off. It would seem so alien. The engineering and durability may have taken a backseat after mercedes became prosporous again. At one time I think serviceable engineering was actually incorporated in the product to some extent. Even if it was at some sacrifice otherwise. Owned some of the earlier models and most things seemed well thought out and easy to get at.

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Old 06-03-2005, 10:47 AM
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not so fast...

Before you thank them too much you should see where the heater core and blower is in the early 1970's MB sedans, like my newly acquired 280SEL. Like your Volvo, their replacement is 12-20 hours of labor to complete. Maybe they learned from their experience so that by the 80's they figured out how to build them so you don't have to take the entire dash out to replace a simple part
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Old 06-03-2005, 11:02 AM
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Before you thank them too much you should see where the heater core and blower is in the early 1970's MB sedans, like my newly acquired 280SEL. Like your Volvo, their replacement is 12-20 hours of labor to complete. Maybe they learned from their experience so that by the 80's they figured out how to build them so you don't have to take the entire dash out to replace a simple part
Absolutely. 114/115 chassis have two blowers: one for the a/c, one for the heating. The location and accessibility of the heater blower is roughtly analogous to entering the burial chamber at the Mazghuna Pyramid.
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Old 06-03-2005, 07:00 PM
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humor

i laughed out loud at the above description of accessiblility of the heater blower.
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Old 06-03-2005, 07:04 PM
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It sounds like you are filtering out the french fry debris, thinning the grease with 15% kerosene and pouring it in the tank? With no modifications to the car? If it's that easy maybe I should give it a whirl.
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Old 06-04-2005, 07:24 PM
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I am settling for a few days in buckets, then filtering (after mixing with 15% kero) through 10 micron filter bags, then filtering through a 10 micron Goldenrod. No heating, no dewatering.

I absolutely don't recommend doing this. Many people have said I will severely shorten the life of, if not destroy, my engine by doing this. I have 2000 miles on this experiment and have had no problems yet.

But it's too easy and cheap and those that sell kits and plans say it can't work.

Listen to them since they have far more experience than I (and perhaps a bit to gain).

In my situation where I drive twice a day for 65 miles at varying speeds and allow the car to work hard, and rarely take short trips, I think it will work fine.

But don't try this at home.
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1984 300D 445k (!!) (Strider) Original (and not rebuilt) engine and transmission. Currently running on V80 ( 80% vegetable oil, 20% petroleum products). Actually not, taking a WVO break.
1993 300d 2.5 275k. Current 120/day commuter
1981 300SD 188k (Hans) Killed by a deer
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Old 06-04-2005, 11:08 PM
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OMG, you had to bring up that blasted Volvo fan motor. I completely forgot I ever worked on one of those things. In a former life, I had an '82 turbo wagon. Great looking car, ran like........did I tell ya it was a great looking car?
And yes, I removed and rebuilt the blower motor on that thing. I think I even took the front seats out to do it. At least I finally was able to REALLY clean the drain tube. no more wet gas pedal foot when the air is on. Only Volvo i ever owned. And the killer was, I could have bought an '84 300TD wagon instead..with a fresh paint job. Still kicking myself for that one.
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:24 AM
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Let's hear it for WVO

I run about 80% WVO and 20% RUG. I have some idle problems, like RPM dropping to 500 RPM then the engine dies, kinda wish I had my '76 240D again with the adjustable idle control. I had been mixing WVO with Diesel at 50%, I have done that for a few months.

I heat up the WVO in a home-made greenhouse made from old windows. Heated up in the cubies I get the oil in is convenient and clean. For $4.00 you can buy a purolator inline fuel filter. For $40 you can buy an electric fuel pump. And finally for $2 you can buy some clear hose. For a total of about $50 you can start burning WVO in an UNMODIFIED car.

My idle problem may be due to the Rack Damper, the idle did fluctuate whe burning 100% dino this past winter. and yes until the car warmed up it would stall. But at 346K miles, she's tired.

I also need to change fuel filters a little more often, but that's only about $10 for the pair. Do the math, $2.50 / gallon * 10 gallons = $25 diesel vs. (8 gallons WVO and 2 Gallons RUG, or $4.00) I'll take the $4.00 any day.

It works, now I need to find me a ride that's not quite as tired as I am right about now.

Oh to be inline with the original post, anyone ever change a blower motor in a 190e?


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