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Oh man, where to begin...
So the son of my friend, against all advice, buys a '92 300SD W140 off of ebay, sight unseen.( ) This is a kid who can barely change a tire. He travels 3 states away to pick it up and finds it's been wrecked more than once, the tank is completely full of fungus, and the interior has been thrashed by some amateur stereo installers. (and to top it off it was owned by a chain smoker) He thought he was getting a deal because it was about half of the blue-book price. The seller basically said "I've got your money, you're stuck with the car, hit the road". So after having it towed to the dealer to get the tank steamed out he limps home at about 45mph, spending a small fortune on fuel conditioner and injector cleaner. I'm trying to help him out. He's had the injectors overhauled by a reputable shop, who also checked out the rest of the engine. The good news is it looks like the engine was replaced recently, and it purrs like a kitten.(603 I think) The bad news is that the turbo doesn't spool up. The diesel shop that did the injectors pulled the turbo and checked it out, and discovered that for whatever reason, the "computer" is not closing the wastegate. When they manually close the wastegate the boost comes up no sweat. So needless to say, the cars a dog. I've been enlisted to help the kid out, but my knowledge of the 140 is limited, (read nonexistant), and I'm looking for some information on where to start on the turbo. The wastegate appears to be vacuum operated. Any suggestions? Oh yeah, the door locks and A/C are inop also..lol Poor kid has already pumped in a couple thousand bucks just getting it home. He could have had a beautiful SD, or pretty nice SDL by now..
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Don't know the specifics of the 603 in the W140, but you mentioned that the wastegate was vacuum operated, and, additionally, that the door locks are inoperative.
So, this tells me that you have a vacuum leak somewhere. Get out that trusty Mityvac and start running the system. It should hold vacuum on all circuits from the vacuum pump, with the exception of the transmission vacuum control valve on the injection pump. You need to track down and plug the leak. When you do, the door locks will function, and the wastegate might function as well. |
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that's a bummer, hopefully you can help him some. I bought a truck 10 years ago from a chain smoker - NEVER again. I don't drive it anymore, it's parts. Still runs and STILL stinks inside
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The 140 is a whole different beast entirely.
I'll admit, I know very little on the diesel 140's as I have seen VERY few of them, and worked on as many as I can count on one hand. In the trunk is a PSE pump for the central locking as usual, similar to the 126 pumps, but more advanced. I don't believe it controls anything but CL and closing assist (maybe another tech can offer some more insight on this). Correct me if I'm wrong but that car should have EDC, Electronic Diesel Control. Get the car to a place with an SDS machine (independent MB should have this, as well as a dealer) and they will be able to tell if its a computer issue with the system not actuating the valve or something mechanical.
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Where was the kid's father in all this? No kid should ever own an expendsive car.
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Just wait untill he finds out that it's the evaporator leaking as to why the a/c doesnt work! $6,000 to fix....
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Assuming everything's working, the problem with no boost could be that someone disabled the EGR valve. The EDS in these cars holds boost for ransom if it doesn't sense that the EGR system is working as determined by the EGR temp sensor and a commensurate drop in air flow. Sixto 95 S420 87 300SDL |
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Yes, I told them to take it to the dealer and have them plug into the computer and check it's health. If the computer's ok, I should be able to get things working, otherwise it's up to them what they do.
How do we check for a leaking evaporator? The dash has obviously been out of this thing more than once already.. The door locks hopefully I can handle |
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Did you check the EGR valve for someone trying to block it? If someone is used to working on domestics or 123's had that car, most likely they plugged the line to the EGR.
Thanks David
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Years ago I bought a 66 Chev sedan from a chain smoker. I scrubbed the inside with upholstery cleaner and then left it outside with the windows rolled down for a week. Drove it that summer with the windows open as much as possible. In the fall rolled the windows up and it didn't smell at all.
There are lots of cleaning and deodorizing products on the market and some are made especially to kill smoke stink, as in houses that have had a fire. |
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Tell the kid to bring the car to a dealer for a PPI and get a list of what needs attention. A tired W140 will bite very hard! How many miles on it? I bet it needs suspension work. You can buy like new W140's for $16k, a $4k beat car probably isn't a deal.
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The best way to help this kid is to take a length of rope, soak it in a bucket of water, and then beat the rat crap out of this idiot. Personally I would let him stew in his own bad decision. Nothing like an empty wallet to get a guy's attention.
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as one of our members is fond of saying (I forget who) A cheap mercedes may be the most expensive car you will ever own....or something like that.
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