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Old 06-16-2005, 11:22 PM
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Replacing paralell glow plugs..

The 76 is running great. However, I am thinking as part of good maintenance I might as well replace the 5 glow plugs that are in it far before the winter hits. Question is, is there anything special about changing these "paralelled" glow plugs as opposed to the normal pencil types? Am I just wasting my time doing this? Car always kicks over in 5 secs or less after sitting overnight. Do I need to really replace them? Thanks.

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Old 06-16-2005, 11:35 PM
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5 seconds??? you're lucky thats very good. in my 78 240 it would take upwards of 20 secs for the light to go out sometimes.

I switched it over to the pencil style fast glow kit. its amazing. 3 second glows now no more knocking after start up either, it has a period of after glow time as well.
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Old 06-16-2005, 11:39 PM
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What you have are series connected GP's (also called a loop style because the heater wire is formed into a loop), the later pencil style GPs are parallel connected. The loop style GP's outlast the pencil style generally but the downside is if one of the series connected loops burns open the entire string goes cold and you will find it hard to start (or VERY hard to start if you have low compression and the weather gets cold)
To change them out may lower the already reliability they obviously have or you would be complaining about the engine being hard to start. So its probably best left alone until one GP fails. I used to carry a jumper wire in my glove box for such an event but it never came, the transmission died and I got rid of the car!
I'd leave it as-is. You will find getting everything necessary to fit the head and new GP's and all is too expensive for most 115 owners but nothing is impossible!
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Old 06-17-2005, 12:38 AM
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I used to think the 115's were ugly since I am a vivid 110, 111, and 108 fan. However, now I really would like to drive one. So, if anyone is within an hour of Ft. Wayne, IN and owns a 115. I'll let you drive the SDL and I get to drive your 115.

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Kyle,

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Old 06-17-2005, 06:45 AM
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ditto

ditto the above post. glow plugs are sometimes tempermental little buggers... the new ones might not last as long as the ones you already have.
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Kyle,

Why did you call the GP you have in a '76 MB PARALLEL GP? Aren't they the ones with wires (some of them resistance wires) going from one GP to the next with the GP in #1 cylinder being grounded to the engine?

The GP described above are older style SERIES GP. The current goes from one GP to the next and then to ground. If one of these burns out, none of the GP will work. I used to carry a jumper wire to get the car started should one of the GP burn out. But one time one of the GP shorted and cooked the copper wire insulation on the wire going to GP in cylinder #1. A short is very rare. I disconnected the shorted GP and used the jumper wire to get the other 4 GP to work. That shorted GP drew so much current, that starter wouldn't crank the engine fast enough to start.

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