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603 belt tensioner damper critical?
the bottom bolt of the belt damper strut managed to come loose and eventually made contact with the water pump pulley. I think it got wedged somewhat and broke one of the "prongs" where it attaches to. so now i have no way of fastening the bottom part of the damper strut to the "tensioner arm?" (don't know what its called... its the "arm" where the spring, the pulley and the strut attaches to.)...
my question is... IS it CRITICAL to have that damper? Is the belt in danger of de-railing?
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You may get away without the belt jumping off track, but I would replace the tensioner as soon as I could. If your belt comes off while driving, you probably wouldn't know about it until the temperature started to rise out of control, and by then, it might be too late. Risky I'd say! |
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You get an immediate idiot light on the dash for the alternator and the steering won't respond normally. Be hard to ignore unless you are a complete idiot. |
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It might be a good idea to check tightness of the large hex center bolt that fastens the tensioner to the block too, as I remember reading a thread here not too long ago about that bolt coming loose and being loose caused threads to strip in somebodies 603!
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The 603 fan pulley is not the water pump pulley.
I don't know exactly what the shock does but you're talking about a 603 that's sensitive to overheating. Sixto 95 S420 87 300SDL |
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there is a thread on the tensioner replacement, see sixto's description:
603 Idler Pully Replacement - Fan Belt The big bolt is put on real tight, 80 + ft lbs and as I recall GSXR used locktite on his too. Incidentally! Carrameow, Ken300D and gsxr have had timing covers crack where the pulley or tensioner mounts, there is a new updated cover available that presumably is reinforced or stronger in that area.
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thanks guys!
that's what i was afraid of... i remember trying to remove that "tensioner body" before... the bolt was hard to turn that i eventually gave up... i was afraid of breaking the timing cover, which already has a crack on the upper left corner. I'm afraid of breaking off where the pulley attaches to. Anyway, i do need a new cover anyway... thanks guys
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I just replaced the shock on my 300d and it was a REAL PITA, anything in the front area of the 603 is a PITA, I wonder if you can just replace that spring with a pull bolt somehow, I think it will be more reliable and can just be checked periodically for belt tension, what do you guys think?
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what i do is i remove the fan shroud, the fan blades, then the pulley... after that i can access the bolt holding the damper... it just takes 15-20 minutes.
it's easy in my case coz my shroud has been cut near the upper tranny cooler line, so its easier to remove even with the fan still attached. i just tie-wrap the joint when i'm done
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Last edited by BusyBenz; 07-16-2005 at 04:32 AM. |
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I've replaced the tensioner arm without removing the fan. I don't think I even moved the shroud. The pulley has to come off/go on with the tensioner arm in place. I guess the SDL radiator is set forward enough to makes the job possible.
It's replacing glow plugs with the manifold in place that I can't do. Sixto 95 S420 87 300SDL |
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