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greggyc 08-02-2005 11:06 PM

mercedes into chevy engine swap
 
Hi...I'm just curious right now, but I've seen a couple of chevy trucks on ebay over the past couple of years that have had mercedes diesel engines swapped into them. I've looked on the net for some info and can't find any. Does anyone have any information you would be willing to share? I'm in the researching phase at present but would like to do it sometime in the future.
Any links? Anyone done it? Where would I start? :bulb:
Thanks

boneheaddoctor 08-02-2005 11:10 PM

Not the best swap if you planned on using it as a truck.......not enough torque.

But it you did a lot of unloaded highway miles then why not....but I think it would be better cheaper and stronger to do a Cummins transplant.

H-townbenzoboy 08-02-2005 11:11 PM

Don't put a Chevy engine in a MB.

boneheaddoctor 08-02-2005 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-townbenzoboy
Don't put a Chevy engine in a MB.

he was talking the other way around....

SD300 08-02-2005 11:22 PM

The 300 turbo engine put out 120 HP and 200 (?) torque.

What about the tranny? better to use Mb stock , or else making an adaptor will be an hassle.
My bro wanted to drop a regular 300 Dsl into a Ford ranger too. That should have adequate power for these small p/u.

H-townbenzoboy 08-02-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
he was talking the other way around....

Whoops! I need to read more carefully next time. I'm still not sure about these conversions either. I saw a Chevy Tahoe with a 603 in it once, looks like it would be cool to drive around though.
-Joe

t walgamuth 08-03-2005 12:54 AM

yeah
 
if i were going to do that i would def use a mb tranny too. either auto or stick. but bones is right it would be fine for a driver but not much for towing. i lately have been musing of a 617 turbo in an el camino.

the cummins into chebby has been done. there used to be a place near lafayette indiana that made kits for that. you needed to start with a diesel eauipped 3/4 or 1 ton chebby. personally if i wanted a truck with a cummins i think i would get a dodge. there are lots of older ones around for cheap. in the older dodges the trannys were weak compared to the touquey cummins.

tom w

greggyc 08-03-2005 04:10 AM

Well, I was thinking maybe an S-10 or something. I don't haul or tow. Maybe an S Blazer. I saw a GMC Sonoma on Ebay once with an MB 4banger in it...wish I'd bought it. Recently saw a Tahoe with Turbo Six in it here in TN. I've seen VW diesels stuck into Trackers and Sidekicks and Samurais. Just a thought, don't know where to begin. Looking for economy since we can't get the M-class in diesel here in the US.

SD300 08-03-2005 04:21 AM

VW diesels stuck into Trackers and Sidekicks and Samurais

I was told the orig Trackers engines are not very long lasting. 100,000 miles maybe it. A fnd stuck toyota gas eng in it.

I have seen them f/s in some veggie diesel board. Some dude in BC canada sells them. Charges a lot for them. I emailed him but never reply.

S10, ranger should work well for 4 or 5 cyl, a turbo will make it fly. My SD is close to 4000 lbs , those pint size p/u should be much lighter.

S10 maybe able to bolt a 6.2 L gm dsl in it.
There're folks put 350 V8 in S10, move the rad infront and battery to rear.

t walgamuth 08-03-2005 07:04 AM

yikes!
 
in an s10 the diesels would be very heavy! very nose heavy and the suspension would be overworked. imho

tom w

J. R. B. 08-03-2005 08:39 AM

When are the people who do this sort of thing (Mercedes engine in a Chev) going to realize that you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear? Makes me sick every time I read about it.

t walgamuth 08-03-2005 10:26 AM

well
 
nobody thinks that by putting a mb motor in an s10 will make an s10 a mb. at least i sure don't think so. but what is wrong with putting an excellent motor in something that is not as excellent?

if mercedes made a pickup this would not be even thought of... well not as much. an engine swap into a truck is a lot easier than making a truck out of a mb car.

tom w

BluEyes 08-03-2005 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth
in an s10 the diesels would be very heavy! very nose heavy and the suspension would be overworked. imho

tom w

People put Chevy smallblocks in those chassis all the time. Those engines weigh around 550# or so, plus the alternator, p/s, a/c. Only problem I hear about them having is traction...

Might want to measure how long a 300 motor is before trying this. Most modern engine bays aren't designed for really long inline motors. Remember to account for the length that the fan will take as well. A 240 should go in pretty easy, but you certainly won't have a speedy truck since the S10 probably weighs about as much as the MB 240 chassis, but has more wind drag.
Of course, if you don't haul anything and don't tow, who not leave the 300 or the 240 in its original chassis and drive that, it would have a better ride for sure.

RUYSENAARS 08-03-2005 03:36 PM

Just to let you know, we will be getting the M-class CDI here in the USA, 2006!
I talked to the dealer last month, I have a feeling we will be getting many more diesels from MB in the next few years!

boneheaddoctor 08-03-2005 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUYSENAARS
Just to let you know, we will be getting the M-class CDI here in the USA, 2006!
I talked to the dealer last month, I have a feeling we will be getting many more diesels from MB in the next few years!

Shame I won't be able to afford it.... :mad:

RUYSENAARS 08-03-2005 06:50 PM

Why not? If you want it bad enough you will find a way!!! (legal of course!!) :D

greggyc 08-04-2005 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUYSENAARS
Just to let you know, we will be getting the M-class CDI here in the USA, 2006!
I talked to the dealer last month, I have a feeling we will be getting many more diesels from MB in the next few years!

That's great to know. The last time I emailed MBUSA they told me they have no intention of selling the ML270 CDI in the states. Maybe there's hope yet. :sun_smile

greggyc 08-04-2005 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. R. B.
When are the people who do this sort of thing (Mercedes engine in a Chev) going to realize that you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear? Makes me sick every time I read about it.

No one complained when Chrysler stuck a Cummins in a Dodge! How about the thousands of chrysler cars and vans with Mitsubishi engines in them? But you can take a sow's ear and put some nice things inside it. I just like to tinker. :pukeface:

greggyc 08-04-2005 05:54 AM

Of course, if you don't haul anything and don't tow, who not leave the 300 or the 240 in its original chassis and drive that, it would have a better ride for sure.[/QUOTE]


I just like the higher stance of a truck sometimes...better view of the road. :cool:

t walgamuth 08-04-2005 09:32 AM

in reference
 
to the comment that small blocks are put into s 10s. yes, but then they have about 70% of the weight on the front end, and a 6.2 is considerably heavier than a small block. it is not something i would consider safe.

tom w

coldwar 08-04-2005 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. R. B.
When are the people who do this sort of thing (Mercedes engine in a Chev) going to realize that you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear? Makes me sick every time I read about it.

Lots of old MB's around that are hopelessly rusted (I know- I have one in my barn!), but running gear is still excellent. So why not make good use of what's left, especially if you want a WVO burning rig?

I'd love to get an old Willys wagon and put a 4 or 5 cyl. MB Diesel into it.

Dave

1976 300D
1970 200 Euro Spec (in barn)

boneheaddoctor 08-04-2005 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUYSENAARS
Why not? If you want it bad enough you will find a way!!! (legal of course!!) :D

I have a personal gripe about spending more than $20K for a car...... :D

CannonBall 08-04-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldwar
Lots of old MB's around that are hopelessly rusted (I know- I have one in my barn!), but running gear is still excellent. So why not make good use of what's left, especially if you want a WVO burning rig?

I'd love to get an old Willys wagon and put a 4 or 5 cyl. MB Diesel into it.

Dave

1976 300D
1970 200 Euro Spec (in barn)

That's the ticket. Grimgaunt on the board here is putting a 616 into a CJ-7 I think. It'd be a great little off road rig. I think a 616 would be perfect in a stock early CJ. For the bigger ones, you gotta go with a 617, turbo perhaps. Oh so cool.
-Nate

mr sweattypits 08-04-2005 12:48 PM

do it
 
I don't see why it would be a problem, the 80's s-10s had a 4.6? basically a v6 made like the old 350 with 2 less cyl. the s-10s are cheap, reliable and there is a lot of em with alot of upgrades. chev's are easy to modify and have alot of space. maybe use a stick to drop some front wieght and mess with the diff gears for better pulling or highway use. gear vendors makes a nice od and you might be able to fit a chev manny tran since the mbs were borg warner. if the block is long salvage two old honda goldwing radiators to split the front and rear mount the battery. most mb people don't want to modify (they are great cars) but there is alot of neglected vehicles with salvageable parts that are rusting to death anyways. check out off road mini truck sites as well as mb truck info like the uni-mog which i believe uses the 5cyl. just take your time to do it right so when its all said and done and everybody feels dumb who said you were crazy. everybody still thinks i'm crazy but i am the first one they ask for advice. :sun_smile


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