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Old 08-06-2005, 11:39 AM
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So, there is some method to determine the actual chain stretch versus the total amount of the late timing?
Beagle discusses such a measurement a little bit, and it makes sense to me that one could be made if one were to wish to take the trouble. Search for all threads started by Beagle - there are only a couple.

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I'm not so sure that starting with a zero offset key is the answer. I recall reading about M/B using some 4 degree offset keys, from the factory, to fix a certain manufacturing problem. If you have one of these engines, your entire database is flawed if you assume that a zero offset key is the starting point.
I agree. That's why I suggested that, if in doubt about the status and history of the chain, many of us might be best served by installation of a new chain. After that, a check of timing by the valve lift method would be in order. If it were spot-on, great. If not, then the sprocket would have to come off to see what sort of key is in place before selecting a new one.

You'll find some discussion of offset keys in Beagle's post.

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Old 08-06-2005, 12:05 PM
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"The worn sprockets won't cause any additional wear on the chain"--Brian

You are not an old motorcycle rider...
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:33 PM
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"The worn sprockets won't cause any additional wear on the chain"--Brian

You are not an old motorcycle rider...
Let's keep to the M/B.

You think the chain will suffer excessive wear, inside the links, due to a worn sprocket? Let's say you are right. This results in some additional clearance between the sprockets and the chain. The timing will be affected ever so slightly.

It's not comparable to wear in the pins, which translate into an elongation of the entire chain.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:37 PM
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http://www.maintenanceresources.com/ReferenceLibrary/RollerChainDrives/maintenancepg1.htm

" Do not run new chain on worn sprockets as it will cause the new chain to wear rapidly. Conversely, do not run a worn chain on new sprockets as it will cause the new sprockets to wear rapidly."
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:50 PM
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There's a post about this from Beagle that I rather liked, and it mentioned taking just such a measurement. This has some intellectual appeal to me, but I'm not going to go out and collect the stuff to do it if I don't have a specification against which to compare the result.
The specifications are in a link in post #4

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