Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-05-2005, 09:33 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dodge county GA
Posts: 72
gasser W123?

Does any one know if it is worth getting a gasser w123 and can they be had with a stick?

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:10 PM
Glinko's Avatar
Ignoramus
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Pine Plains, NY
Posts: 708
YES! A guy in nearby town owns a 2?0E with a stick, and it uses teh gas.

However, take a look around. Most of the 123's you'll find are diesels. Either more of them were made or the gassers went to ****e a little quicker, I'm not sure which.
__________________
1982 240D.
My name is Michael, and I am an 18 year old binge-drinkin', cigar-smokin', novel-writin', all around unsavory and unnattractive guy. I tell long-winded stories, and I only shave once a week, although I've had to do it every day since I was 16.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:12 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dodge county GA
Posts: 72
what is the gas mileage like?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:12 PM
carson356
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
gasser 123

Quote:
Originally Posted by kirk240
Does any one know if it is worth getting a gasser w123 and can they be had with a stick?
i have a 230TE, has the 102 engine, same as the 190 model, it is an automatic. i really like it. it is currently going through a minor restoration, these are before pictures,



Last edited by carson356; 08-12-2005 at 12:31 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:55 PM
iNeon's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 894
aww that engine looks so cute in there!

i bet its pretty easy to work on everything, it looks smaller than a 240 engine(but 2.3 v. 2.4 isnt a big difference, huh?)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-05-2005, 11:50 PM
sixto's Avatar
smoke gets in your eyes
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 20,793
Does the air cleaner rattle at idle?

Sixto
95 S420
87 300SDL
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-06-2005, 12:27 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 34,808
in the era of the 123

mb sold 80% diesel. so not many gassers around. 250s with carb. 280s with carb. a few 230s with carb. prob a few 230s with stick early on. later 280es. the later cars none had sticks with gas in us. all above comments regard us models. in europe most were sticks i think. they are sweet with sticks. i had a 123 euro 280e with fiver. it had a 3.69 rear end which was not usual. the 3.54 was usual i think. i got 23ish on hiway, 17ish in town. sweet car though. they shift very well. i would stay away from carb cars personally. unless they have weber conversions.

tom w
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-06-2005, 12:37 AM
carson356
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth
mb sold 80% diesel. so not many gassers around. 250s with carb. 280s with carb. a few 230s with carb. prob a few 230s with stick early on. later 280es. the later cars none had sticks with gas in us. all above comments regard us models. in europe most were sticks i think. they are sweet with sticks. i had a 123 euro 280e with fiver. it had a 3.69 rear end which was not usual. the 3.54 was usual i think. i got 23ish on hiway, 17ish in town. sweet car though. they shift very well. i would stay away from carb cars personally. unless they have weber conversions.

tom w
MY 230 TE above is a Euro model with automatic transmission, the fuel system is CIS.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-06-2005, 12:46 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 34,808
yes

it is a later model 230 right? with the engine like in our 190. they sold a 230 engine 123 i think, perhaps that was a 115 body, but it had the single ohc engine like the 250 but with four cylinders. and carb. yours would be sweet. what year is yours?

tom w
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-06-2005, 12:48 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 34,808
btw

did you do the two tone? it looks nice. like a mb service wagon i imagine.

tom w
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-06-2005, 01:07 AM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 15,103
I thought MB switched the majority if not all of their (gas) engines to injection by the late 70's? My dad used to drive his dad's 280e in the late 70's in germany and it was fuel injected....the one his dad had before that was a carb though....and he says the power difference was enormous...
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 83k - mine - (OC-85,500)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 13k - wifes (OC-17k)
'01 E320 Wagon - 159k - mine (OC-160,000)
'01 E320 - 179k - dad's (OC-182,500)
'07 E350 Wagon - 131k - dad's (OC-132,500)
'01 SL500 - 51k - dad's (OC-52,000)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 57k - Brothers (OC-64,000)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-06-2005, 01:10 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 45
my mechanic has a 200 gasser behind his shop, its a 4 speed manny. looks just like a 240D
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-06-2005, 01:48 AM
carson356
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth
it is a later model 230 right? with the engine like in our 190. they sold a 230 engine 123 i think, perhaps that was a 115 body, but it had the single ohc engine like the 250 but with four cylinders. and carb. yours would be sweet. what year is yours?

tom w
mine is a 1985
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-06-2005, 01:51 AM
carson356
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth
did you do the two tone? it looks nice. like a mb service wagon i imagine.

tom w
actually the car was the service wagon for our mercedes repair shop, the owner was going to junk it after he bought a 2000 ML320, i couldn't let that happen, so i took it as my own. as for the blue stripe, it is gone, i am still regretting that i removed it, i think it gave the car some character,
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-06-2005, 01:57 AM
thebenzbar's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: So. Flo.
Posts: 685
Yep, Ray's '85 230TE is a very nice & rare example of one of the last w123's in production.....M102 4-cyl petrol (2299cc w/ Bosch CIS) 136hp; 3.69 rear; and his has some rare options too such as HD suspension...

The regular carburated gassers were phased out in April of 1980. The fuel-injected M102's had better gas mileage and ran smoother than the carb ones. In fact, these W123 M102's were basically the same as the (W201) 190E's M102 block and design.

Nice ride Ray!!

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Great Deal For A W123 Diesel,i Got Those Parts Part Of A Deal 92300SE Mercedes-Benz Used Parts For Sale & Wanted 18 01-15-2015 09:01 AM
W123 blower motor brushes -- any interest? Maki Diesel Discussion 18 11-28-2011 06:34 PM
lots and lots W123 noob buyer questions... volvonoob Diesel Discussion 10 11-10-2004 06:12 PM
W123 reunion in Colleyville yesterday dmorrison Diesel Discussion 1 05-14-2004 10:12 AM
W123 Test How Well do you KNOW your parts? Idahoel Diesel Discussion 9 12-06-2003 02:04 AM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page