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Old 08-22-2005, 03:56 PM
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My 85TD seems to do just fine in the snow. But if you are having problems, the real solution is to put in a NA engine. My wife loves her 77 300d here at a mile high because, since it starts out in 2nd gear, the engine doesn't even have enough power to spin the wheels on glare ice.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by t walgamuth
will make the car go sideways when the rear end breaks traction. hence less safe for a driver with less than the best skills. that is why inmho why mb doesnt put it in ordinary benzes... also the cost.

i have always felt that benzes are very good on snow. the independent rear susp makes the traction better. personally, i dont want fwd. had two saabs and liked them but rear drive gives more options to a driver who knows how to use it.

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I live on a hill. You turn off the main street then you start going up the hill so you only have the speed you can carry through the turn. My old Camry and my moms car will pull up the hill without any trouble in the worst conditions. My friends E300D with an LSD and ESP (ESP rules in the snow!!) will pull up the hill with tired tires. My Uncles AWD G35 is like a tank in the snow! AWD with traction control is really nice when their is no traction. My SDL will just lose traction part of the way up and slide back. No matter what I do with only one wheel doing the work she just can't get up. The 560SEL's had an LSD, MB cheaped out.
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Old 08-22-2005, 07:03 PM
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not a option.

Originally Posted by PagodaLover
Have never driven the W123 in snow/winter except for one time in an emergency and no other car was available and I remember it being awful in the snow, fishtailing awful.

Is there any way to make the W123 wagons perform safer/better in snow? I just put new Gooodyear TripleTreds on all four wheels. Would bags of sand/gravel in the back help? What else?
Since we don't have any of the traction control stuff on our 123's, 4 studded snow tires are your best option. I have four for the war wagon and my 4-wheel drive Pathfinder. I keep them mounted on extra rims. If I know a storm is brewing or I get caught by suprise it only takes 20 minutes to put them on. I don't run them anymore then I have to. This way, they last a long time. I currently have a set that is eight years old and in good shape. I would stay away from only running two snows. The car may move better but stopping and lateral grip will be a problem.
I pull my sleds on a 8'-10' trailer with my 300d. Thats about 1500 pounds and I have no trouble.
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Old 08-28-2005, 12:56 AM
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Thanks to all!

I've never used the W123 wagon in the winter before. Always just garaged it when the season came, but now don't have the garage space because of another toy and since it's outside to stay I want to drive it around year-round.
Being up here in Alaska for a month has me already thinking of the winters to come when I return back East.

I have found that my state allows stuuded snow tired from Nov 1-Apr 15. I may just go that route and try to relax on the acceleration so as not to engage the turbo at the wrong time. I had never considered that the turbo would be a real problem. Any suggestions on studded snows?

The responses were very helpful to me and interesting.
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