I filled my bike last night for $2.64 a gallon. Gas stations on my way home today were in the rang of 3.09 to 3.44 a gallon. Eighty cents more a gallon in less then 24 hours. I checked future stocks for tomorrow before I left the office. They are up another .30 cents for tomorrow. The refinery in Albany, NY has told us we can't haul out any more gas or diesel then our average over the past few months or they will greatly increase the price. I was a child in the seventies, so I don't remember the finer points of the gas crunch. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

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85 300d 365,000mi war wagon
84 300sd parts doner, many parts for sale
90 Nissan Pathfinder 250,000+mi work horse

I paid $2.79 yesterday, I topped off because I figured it was only going to go up. Today that same station is $2.90, I am expecting to pay $3.50ish next week. What can you do if you have to drive? I can't exactly ride my bike everyday 13 miles each way to school. I am just glad I bought a 300SDL and not a 560SEL. 15mpg or less would suck even more.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Firstly, I am not bent out of shape. I just felt that was a pretty mean remark about hoping gas prices go up simply because you are not so affected when you run WVO. It would be akin to me hoping more people from your family die so as to ease the overpopulation. While you and BC hate them trucks and SUVs, they ARE paying their fair share for gas and for some people, they make sense because of their situation. They don't have a discount line for Trucks and SUVs with a full price line for cars. As such, I don't see where they are not paying their fair share. However, gas prices go up, everything else goes with it too. If we have too many people who feel that we need to raise prices for whatever aim, I think prices will go up even more. Just like politicians, I believe the gas companies keep track of the pulse of the customers. If 3 out of 4 people believed that the prices were too low, you can bet they will raise them. If I were sitting in the CEO position, you bet I will do that. Let me ask you this, if Best Buy, Circuit City, etc, etc, has professional shoppers to shop the competition, do you really believe that the oil companies don't have someone gauging the mood of the people? Do you think that after Sep 11, 2001, Scott McCullum, Gov or WI really cared about the people enough to fine gas stations that were gouging people? People were grumbling about it and he found a political axe to grind and so he made a big deal about fining gas stations that were gouging people by raising the prices. Now, if everyone had just said "Such is life", you think he would have done anything?

BTW, I don't root for the Packers. I root for another team.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Valid points if you make the assumption of a free market. Oops. We pay artifically low prices for fuel, subsidized by the government, enabling cheap gas and by extension, gas guzzling SUVs. This fuel price spike could have been softened if the price of fuel actually reflected the cost of it's production.

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'83 240D with 617.952 and 2.88
'01 VW Beetle TDI
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD
'89 Toyota 4x4, needs 2L-T
'78 280Z with L28ET - 12.86@110
Oil Burner Kartel #35

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Actually why not ride a bike every day? I would love it if I lived only thirteen miles from school, I'd ride there every day unless it was snowing. Sadly I happen to live about 25 miles from school and 20 of those miles would be on Interstate 5, thusly WVO is a better solution. I ride road bikes for recreational purposes all the time and can do thirteen in less than 45 min. So why not just go buy yourself a good road bike and help yourself out of the vicious gas cycle?

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'84 190d 2.2 - Silver
Converted to 5-Speed
'84 190d 2.2 - Blue
Factory 5-Speed

'76 300D (W115)
Sold, found again in less auspicious circumstances

I just paid $2.659 per gallon this evening. Not too bad considering about 2 weeks ago I paid $2.639 per gallon when things were "normal." A station had diesel for $2.559, but they were sold out, and this was the next best. They were selling RUG for $2.849 and premium for $3.09. A BP right across from campus sold out of RUG at $2.899. My mom told me diesel is $3.09 back in Pinellas County, and RUG is around $2.859.

Even though it felt nice paying 20 cents less a gallon for diesel than RUG, I know that I got lucky finding this cheap station.

I would die. Half of the trip is on I-95 and the other trip is on crappy main roads in New Haven. I would probably get run down by a car or shot in very short order.

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1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

D now over $3 here and heading for $4 very soon ...

time is to take action, burn waste engine oil , WVO, heating oil.. anything...

the feds don't have time to check anybody's tank here...
heck they aren't even around ...

it feels like the wild west already now. every man for himself and damn the consequences.

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1984 300D Turbo - 231k....totalled 11/30/07 RIP

Not so much talk about using WVO and BioDiesel...I found out tonite that professional shoppers from Circuit City are monitoring this web site for the government looking for environmentalists who are beating the system so they can raise our fuel prices even more!!!!!!

GAAAD....

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'87 924S
'81 280SEL

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81 300SD -
93 300E w/ 3.2
85 300D-
79 300SD
82 300CD
83 300CD - CA
87 190E 5 spd
87 Porsche 924S

"..I'll take a simple "C" to "G" and feel brand new about it..."

Anyone know what B-100 cost, or will cost?

Actually you are somewhat off base with your reply. My daily driver is VW Turbo Diesel thaat gets pretty fantastic mileage! This was a pre-emptive purchase in Dec. 2003, pre iraq invasion. I had some bad vibes about this ME excursion and its effects on the price of Oil. I was Spot on as far as my hunch.Now with the NO disaster, even a better decision! People will get shocked like a bath in ice water with these high fuel prices(well maybe you won't, you don't seem to be too irratated over the price rise) and then some will change. Hopefully they will pressure their Reps and also car makers into bringing out more energy efficient cars.

While in a small town north or Detroit yesterday I saw prices rise from $2.86 to $2.99 in the morning, then to $3.29 in the afternoon.

That's a 42 cent increase!

And that was ALL the stations in and just outside of town.

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'05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles
'86 300SDL - 360,000 miles
'85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold)
'89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold)
'85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold)
'98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold)
'75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold)
'83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-(
'61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes
2004 Papillon (Oliver)
2005 Tzitzu (Griffon)
2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba)

I am certainly not defending Hummers, and also not defending the SUV driver who has one just as a status symbol. My point was that flippant statements like you made to begin this thread are not well thought out. I do like the fact that higher prices of petroleum are leading more to invest in biofuels, but I also realize these high prices are going to have a detrimental effect on the economy as a whole. Unless you grow your own food, walk everywhere you go, and make your own clothing, you will be adversely affected by higher fuel prices. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I just advise thinking things through before making such flippant statements.

And by the way, I wasn't referring to your collector email thread, but another thread you started where you couldn't believe a sushi restaurant was being paid for their oil. If I remember correctly you even had a purple sad face on the title of the thread. I guess I thought that was considered bemoaning the fact...

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Funny story ... diesel had been 2.62 around here before yesterday. Yesterday, my dad and I drove into the local town to get diesel. We passed one station where it was 2.83 and went to check the next station up there street. It was 2.98, so we went back to the first station. In the time it had taken us to drive up the street, the first station had raised to 2.85. We filled up anyway. We went back into town that evening, and that station had raised to 2.98! We're a very small town, so I think they probably got a tip that the gas stations on the other side of town were at 2.98, so they were behind the 8-ball and hiked the price. Oh well.

The best part of things around here is that gas is 3.49. Oh how I love thee, diesel vehicle ...

Awful as the fuel prices are, we'll survive. It's a good wake-up call to Americans who have become way, way too accustomed to easy, cheap fuel for all.

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

I just finished typing a 3 paragraph reply and got froze up again when submitting....This happens way too often lately...!!!
but it has to do with oil profits up 50-60% and being in bed with car mftg's t keep us driving cars that are gas guzzlers...
so how are things in KS?

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'87 924S
'81 280SEL

Sold ->

81 300SD -
93 300E w/ 3.2
85 300D-
79 300SD
82 300CD
83 300CD - CA
87 190E 5 spd
87 Porsche 924S

"..I'll take a simple "C" to "G" and feel brand new about it..."