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Tirebiter 10-26-2005 01:13 AM

Red dye diesel
 
I'm looking for first hand information here:

Has anyone here ever had their diesel checked for red dye (untaxed) fuel?

pawoSD 10-26-2005 01:37 AM

Nope.

Michigan doesn't check to make sure your car isn't spewing enormous clouds of exhaust, nor if its safe to drive, either. :rolleyes:

Fimum Fit 10-26-2005 08:32 AM

I've stopped for such a roadblock on I 64
 
east of Richmond, VA -- they had a sign at the entrance to the weigh station that said something like "All diesel vehicles exit here," so I did, but the Trooper who was directing traffic apparently didn't realize that my '85 VW Jetta could be a diesel, so he rather abruptly waved me on past and then turned and watched as I went back on the highway, once he had smelled the fuel fumes. Here in VA, they put a lot of effort into catching farmers and construction workers who put machinery fuel (red) into their pickups.

boneheaddoctor 10-26-2005 08:35 AM

I've never been checked but I know people who have been....and have been busted for having #2 heating oil in hteir vehicle. HUGE fine for that.

Personally I am surprised the crime situation is such that they have nothing better to do than pick on drivers.

BioBens 10-26-2005 08:44 AM

red diesel check
 
Here in Montana the checks are routine in ranch country, not in town. They run PSAs on TV about it, mostly targeting diesel pickup trucks.

TX76513 10-26-2005 09:02 AM

When I was in Oregon we worked with the DCO (diesel compliance officers) who were part of the IRS. They did not have the authority to stop vehicles we did :P Was there something in particular you wanted to know?

J. R. B. 10-26-2005 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
I've never been checked but I know people who have been....and have been busted for having #2 heating oil in hteir vehicle. HUGE fine for that.

Personally I am surprised the crime situation is such that they have nothing better to do than pick on drivers.

I know what you mean. In my area they should concentrate more on busting up the meth labs and leave the farmers and ranchers burning #2 fuel alone. The farmers and ranchers have a tough enough time making it. When they do bust a meth lab they give the lab tech a slap on the wrist. When they bust a farmer burning #2 they crucify him.

boneheaddoctor 10-26-2005 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. R. B.
I know what you mean. In my area they should concentrate more on busting up the meth labs and leave the farmers and ranchers burning #2 fuel alone. The farmers and ranchers have a tough enough time making it. When they do bust a meth lab they give the lab tech a slap on the wrist. When they bust a farmer burning #2 they crucify him.

THats a big problem here in VA too....

the fuzz have a seriously misplaced sense of priorities...

Col.Klink 10-26-2005 11:52 AM

As high as the crap is either way you are getting ripped off so if you can get ,I say burn it > Just put a quart of USED ol Black oil you drained out of the Crankcase in the tank and it won't be Red any more ....

boneheaddoctor 10-26-2005 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col.Klink
As high as the crap is either way you are getting ripped off so if you can get ,I say burn it > Just put a quart of USED ol Black oil you drained out of the Crankcase in the tank and it won't be Red any more ....

Won't help....Home heating oil (the RED stuff) has a chemical tracer in it that can be easily identified with field kits the revenue extortion squads use.

TX76513 10-26-2005 12:08 PM

And some fuel additives (ag) and transmission fluids have the same petroleum dye.

LarryBible 10-26-2005 12:10 PM

Very interesting choice of words. So a person whose job is enforcing the law is an extortionist. Very interesting view point.

Have a great day,

boneheaddoctor 10-26-2005 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryBible
Very interesting choice of words. So a person whose job is enforcing the law is an extortionist. Very interesting view point.

Have a great day,

I feel the same way about speed traps..while high crime areas get ignored...

however back to the point of the thread....I don't know the chemical they use for a tracer but its not what gives it the red look. Thats a sepereate issue. Becasue people could claim its a fuel additive giving the color...the chemical tracer would not be tracible to any fuel additive.

TX76513 10-26-2005 12:18 PM

It's the dye - if you have red dye in your fuel at >8ppm you are busted regardless of the source. Like failing a drug test for pot and telling the MRO you take Hemp Oil - you still failed the test.

RUYSENAARS 10-26-2005 05:06 PM

While evacuating for Rita a few weeks ago, I asked my dad to pick up some diesel in my 5gal container so I could fill my car up. We were in Lousiana. He started filling up my container, and relized that it was Farm diesel IN the AUTO diesel pump???????? He asked the attendant, she just shrugged her shoulders. I wonder if they waived the issue due to a natural disaster,just to get fuel to where it needed to be???? Anyway, I dumped it in because I needed it. OH WELL if I get in trouble!!!! :D


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