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Old 11-02-2005, 01:28 PM
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It very well could have been an overfill situation. Which, on a diesel, can be a hazard. Since a diesel can literally run on oil, a combination of factors can come together and literally cause the engine to feed off its own oil resulting in a runaway situation. Most diesels have a warning label cautioning against over-filling.

A couple of things may have happened. If it was serviced by a quik-lube type of place, they may not realize that oil capacity includes the oil cooler which is almost never drained. Therefore resulting in overfilled. The other quirk is what you noticed. A diesel utilizes oil for many things including cooling the bottom of the pistons by small injectors. Therefore, it tends to take a long time for all of the oil to return to the pan.

Considering this, I rarely fill above the lower full mark with a cold engine. With a warm engine, and sitting for a moment such as when you are refueling, a quart low is not out of the ordinary. Remember, your oil capacity is nearly 8 qts. for a 3.0 liter engine where most gasoline engines barely use 4 qts, if that, for the same size engine. Hope that helps.
Yes, this all makes a lot of sense right about now.
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Old 11-02-2005, 02:26 PM
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An old method for finding leaks was to have a spray powder that they would put on the engine. This would allow them to see where the leak was coming from. The powder was discontinued, probably because depletion of the ozone layer. So its not available. But maybe another powder would work. I have considered doing to following to determine engine leaks. Clean the engine very well then spray the engine with a spray powder, deodorant or foot spray and then see where the oil comes form.

I have been chasing an oil leak for a while. Here are the following seals and units I have replaced.

Turbo oil drain orings and seals.

617 Turbo oil return line. Replacing seals

Oil separator seals and check valve.

617 engine, replacing the oil separator check valve in the upper oil pan.

The above post shows replacing the oil pan gasket.

The front crankshaft seal and all seals on the front of the block. I really think I had a front crank shaft seal leak. I did all the other seals since I was there.


Replacing the 300TD front crankshaft seal and other front of block oil leaks


The front crankshaft seal is difficult to determine since you can't see it "dripping". The engine fan will blow the oil back along the upper oil pan top. Causing it to seem to be a oil separator or turbo tube leak.
I now have only one small leak in the car. But no oil leaks.


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Old 11-02-2005, 05:14 PM
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Spoke too soon; still have the leaks.

BUT, clearly one of them is the lower oil pan gasket. The other is dripping down from the passenger/firewall area and I haven't nailed it down yet.

Both are somewhat slower with the oil level kept right instead of probably overfilled. And it took actually driving the car around for awhile and heating up the oil and getting it circulating to make them leak.

A new oil pan gasket should fix one of them, but how much success have you all had with stop-leak kinda stuff?
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:38 PM
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How much success have you all had with stop-leak kinda stuff?
It is a great way to wreck your engine.
I am looking for the thread now.
I fear it may have been part of the oil filter thread that was deleted.
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:58 PM
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(Stop-leak stuff) is a great way to wreck your engine.
I am looking for the thread now.
I fear it may have been part of the oil filter thread that was deleted.
Yeah, my dad who has worked more than 40 years in the petroleum industry told me he'd never put it in his car. In theory it should only set up when it meets air, right? So it fills the gaps and then sets up? ... But he said he doesn't trust it to do just that, figuring instead it might set up just about any old place and shut you down.
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:49 PM
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Watch this one for answers.

Engine oil stop-leak
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/136064-engine-oil-stop-leak.html#post1002466
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