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A/C Compressor
Hey everyone. I know its the wrong season to be asking an a/c question but I've been reasearching this on this forum and other sites and its driving me crazy. I'm going on a trip next summer and I want to get it up and running over the winter. My car has been converted to r134a. A P/O had the compressor, dryer, exp valve, and fittings all replaced. I know I have a leak and something funky is going on with the compressor. I put a charge WITH OIL in it to get it working. The compressor works but it makes a god-aweful noise. Does it need to be replaced? If so is there a special compressor that this car uses when its been convereted? Will the original R4 compressor work if I can get my hands on one? I've read Dieselgiant's how-to on cleaning out the system and that's where I'm going to start. On my list of things to do is to replace the reciever/drier and the expansion valve. My main concern right now is the compressor. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm hoping when I open it up if I actually pour the proper oil in it that that will quiet the noise.
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Put too much oil in it and you risk slugging the compressor (equal to hydrolocking an engine)
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BHD is absolutely right.
One of my favorite a/c quotes is from Steve Brotherton. He wrote: "Too much oil destroys compressors while not enough oil wears them out." A noisy compressor always makes for a difficult question. Do you replace it or not. I have heard a few compressors that sounded like sirens but lasted for years. You just never know. As far as replacing components, why are you replacing the TXV? Is it bad? Good luck, |
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sailor,
I've never seen a TXV (expansion valve) fail due to being gummed up. They are easily cleaned upon removal. The only two ways that I've ever seen them fail is that they start leaking between the diaphragm and the body, OR they open up wide providing no restriction for the system. That does not mean that they cannot fail any other way, it's just that it's all I've seen. Yes lots of R4's have been used in conversions in the past, but now there is no longer a need to run 134 in these cars. 134 has gone up in price while R12 have taken a nose dive. I bought R12 a few months ago for $14.16 per pound while 134 has gone up near $10. If you are going to open the system and replace the r/d anyway, simply flush everything good enough to get out most of the oil, put in 6 oz. of mineral oil or the R12 compatible synthetic and charge with R12. You will have a better performing and longer lived system. I looked at your signature to see where you are before recommending reverse conversion. If you were in a cold climate it would not be as big of a problem running 134, but the time I spent in Norman I remember lots of heat. Good luck, |
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A noisy compressor? or a a noisy clutch - which is it? How does one determine which?
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I've said many times on this forum that noises and vibrations are very difficult to deal with over the internet. I would have to hear it.
That said, you need to listen to the noise with the clutch engaged and disengaged. What kind of noise is it? Is it squealing, whining, knocking? If it is squealing with the clutch engaged then it could be a slipping clutch but that usually only happens when the compressor initially kicks in. If it is a whining or knocking sound and it only happens when the clutch is engaged, then the problem is the compressor. Again, difficult to know without being there. Good luck, |
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Larry,
Thanks for all of your help. You've got me seriously thinking of putting R-12 back in it now. The charging fittings, if that's what they're called, would be the wrong size, wouldn't they? How would I go about converting them back? Thanks a lot.
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Proud owner of .... 1971 280SE W108 1979 300SD W116 1983 300D W123 1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper 1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel 1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified) --------------------- Section 609 MVAC Certified --------------------- "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche |
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