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check out this heater , Its the one I'm using
"farm Innovators" model w-449 |
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http://www.farminnovators.com/ but no way to search for product model; Do you have a picture?
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tirebiter ive asked girlmark myself on how to dewater oil.. its dangerous to boil a large volume as oil and its easier to just heat it to 150 degrees with a turk or heating element.. even easier if you can put a vaccume on your heating tank.
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hey austin85 do a google search for
"farm innovators"w-449 it should come right up ,I just clicked on the top result from google. I looked at it from some other dealers site and they had the specs. It was $10 less on ebay when I bought one. good luck |
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no ,I'll going to try it right now.
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I put about an inch in a fry pan got it up to 350 so far still going not a single pop or crackle....Okay 390 no cracks or pops I am too scared to continue. Now I am going to test un heated and settled oil now to see if I'm getting oil with or without water. Got to let the pan cool first.
Finally got to use the thermometer on my electronic multi tester..cool. |
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What I find interesting in the whole water WVO thing is....
Nobody wants to talk about condensation. When I brought up the point on the infopop list it was poopooed. Water is a problem in diesel fuel as well. A whole industry of gadgets and chemicals are sold for it. My .02% I don't intentially heat settle my WVO. I do let it sit for at least 2 weeks (usually longer) and settle out water via gravity. Then I use a commerical disperseant, to take care of any condensation that forms (and it will form, unless you live in the desert SW).
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pmari could you please expand on commercial disperseant? what do you do with it and where do you get it. What brand and such.
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& I am with you on that. Condensation in the tank happens all the time Especially if you let the fuel run low frequently....and it's hot out.. Like me in Florida....Gravity will settle out water and pump from the top of the barrel...
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Commercial dispersants like FPPF or Power Service, Rescue 911 or Artic Express.
I personally also use isopropyl alcohol in my blends. The starbrite Startron uses the same enzyme for both diesel and gas. Startron is used for cleaning out the deposits in the fuel tank (along with other claims of carbon cleaning in the engine). It's also a biocide.
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My unsettled oil from one source ,did not seem to have any water in it when I heated it in the fry pan so my test is not viable as scientific proof that I removed water. From what I have read it works good. |
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A DISCLAIMER: Hot oil, even at 230F, can harm you if you have poor lab techniques. Dropping frozen food into a deep fryer requires caution. Plain common sense and experience will tell you not to drop water into hot oil, don’t splash it on yourself, don’t put your hand in it, etc. (duh). In all good conscience I cannot advise a 16 year old boy to even boil an egg in water on the stove without adult supervision. In all fairness, Girl Mark has first hand experience that bringing the oil to a lesser temp helps settle the water….. but NOT all of it. No matter how long it settles it will still contain water in equalibrium. If memory serves, it’s about 1500 PPM. She is not a chemist but she has a great deal of experience making and promoting biodiesel. She has NEVER claimed that using the abovementioned “dewatering” process removes all the water. Even a sample holding 2500 PPM will not give off the “popping” indication when taken to 230F. The best way to find how much water is present is to weigh, heat, cool, and weigh again. NEUTRAL is a chemist and he doesn’t seem to have any problems running unwashed biodiesel. He boils the water out of his WVO because any water left in will be absorbed by the hygroscopic methly alcohol in the methoxide and a less than complete reaction occurs leaving an excess of soap. In any diesel engine, water in the fuel is a bad thing. Some water can be tolerated but you actually want NO WATER AT ALL. When I use the term “dewatered”, I mean NO WATER. Even with no water in your filtered WVO, condensation does occur in our fuel tanks. Usually, in our small tanks, it does not go over equilibrium to the point of saturation. After the point of saturation the excess water will collect at the lowest point. It becomes a bigger problem in larger tanks, like on a boat. Again, in all fairness, running “wet” WVO through a water block or water seperator, will take out all but the smallest portion of water. |
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