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Old 11-09-2005, 02:35 AM
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These cars are truly unstoppable....

So tonight after leaving work at school (I work till 2am in the IT dept.) to come home, it was storming like heck for about 3 hours prior, and during, (still is), on my way home, its a rich part of the city, so they have stupid streetlights that are more or less for decoration than for actual lighting of the road (you can't see anything) I was cruising along since it was raining so hard around maybe 32-35mph or so down the road, when in the headlights I think "hmm, that looks weird up there ahead, whats that wavyness.....it turned out to be about 1 FOOT of water for a distance of about 200+ feet! So I end up plowing right into it full tilt since I had noticed this peculiar appearance of the street about 3 seconds before it happened....so I plowed all the way through this water at about 35mph, car downshifted to 2nd because of the work to plow through the water (I was already in "S"), maintained 35mph.....water was shooting out the sides probably 10 feet high. That was quite an experience. Needless to say, it didn't even phase the car, I emerged from the "ocean" and kept going along on my merry way. I was truly amazed at how the steering felt exactly the same, and the car felt like it was planted on the street like a rock, despite the massive water flow....a normal car would have hydroplaned severely I bet... The reason its so flooded everywhere around here (unusual) is because it rained sooo hard, and there's leaves, everywhere, so all the drains are plugged up.

Quite a fun ride home tonight.

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Old 11-09-2005, 03:07 AM
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That may have made a good film or at least photo from a number of angles.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:52 AM
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Haha! What a fun day on the lake.

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Old 11-09-2005, 07:13 AM
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yeah

please do it just once more for the camera.

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Old 11-09-2005, 09:16 AM
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Great Snow Machine

So I head for work yesterday morning 30 miles over the 6,000-foot Bozeman Pass in the middle of our first major snowstorm, and haven't yet changed to snow treads on my 'new' '84 300TDT. I-90's greasy as heck and the traffic's running about 50 mph, max. The MB's tracking and stability immediately became apparent. Cruised at 65 mph average, mostly in the unplowed lane, passing every vehicle -- most of which were AWD SUVs. The TDT is an amazing vehicle and outstanding snow car.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:21 AM
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So I head for work yesterday morning 30 miles over the 6,000-foot Bozeman Pass in the middle of our first major snowstorm, and haven't yet changed to snow treads on my 'new' '84 300TDT. I-90's greasy as heck and the traffic's running about 50 mph, max. The MB's tracking and stability immediately became apparent. Cruised at 65 mph average, mostly in the unplowed lane, passing every vehicle -- most of which were AWD SUVs. The TDT is an amazing vehicle and outstanding snow car.
I am buying a set of snows for mine...trying to Decide between the Blizzak WS-50 and the Michelin X-ICE........Googling up some reviews put the X-ICE above the Blizzak.....

This will be my first winter in the Benz (sold my snow car) ..and first rear wheel drive car without limited slip rear I have had since 1979...
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:30 AM
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This will be my first winter in the Benz (sold my snow car) ..and first rear wheel drive car without limited slip rear I have had since 1979...

It snows in Virginia Wow.

Go to Tirerack.com, find your size and read reviews. The Blizzaks can be a little spongy but are great for the snow and ice. If you drive highway speeds on dry roads much of the time you probably want a sport winter tire - better control, less noise, less wear on dry roads. You can pick up a lot from the reviews on Tirerack.

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Old 11-09-2005, 09:49 AM
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I tell you...One time down when I lived in miami it had rained so hard I remember driving through some back road and the water was just below my hood emblem. I had two friends in the car that didnt think I would make it and I had to laugh passing the honda civic that was stuck in the middle of the road.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:54 AM
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I am buying a set of snows for mine...trying to Decide between the Blizzak WS-50 and the Michelin X-ICE........Googling up some reviews put the X-ICE above the Blizzak.....

This will be my first winter in the Benz (sold my snow car) ..and first rear wheel drive car without limited slip rear I have had since 1979...

I never could understand why folks purchase serious snow tires in states that have limited snowfall (Virginia) or even here in NY where they have a relatively excellent highway department. Once the road is plowed, the sun takes over within a couple of hours and the snow tires are not needed.

The only benefit is when you get caught in a snowstorm, prior to the arrival of the plow.

In such a condition, the MB won't do all that great, but, simply drive the vehicle slower with more care on acceleration and stopping. How often do you actually get caught in a snowstorm?

I'd never spend the money on winter tires unless I lived in rural Vermont or Montana or places that get heavy snow for days on end.

Kind of reminds me of all the people who must purchase an SUV because they have to be prepared for the snow..............as if they would be stranded in a snowfall with a Camry.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:36 AM
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This will be my first winter in the Benz (sold my snow car) ..and first rear wheel drive car without limited slip rear I have had since 1979...

It snows in Virginia Wow.

Go to Tirerack.com, find your size and read reviews. The Blizzaks can be a little spongy but are great for the snow and ice. If you drive highway speeds on dry roads much of the time you probably want a sport winter tire - better control, less noise, less wear on dry roads. You can pick up a lot from the reviews on Tirerack.

Good luck
We get snow and Black ice frequently....I am west of DC....parts of MD are further south than I am....DC too.

I also frequently tavel to Pittsburgh VIA route 68 and north at morgantown WV....and yes there is wicked snow in Garret County MD and Preston County WV.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:41 AM
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I accidentally did that once in a 1974 VW. They say they will float, but it was like the Disney water show in the passenger side. Water splashed all across the open fuse box there, but nothing happened.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:44 AM
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I never could understand why folks purchase serious snow tires in states that have limited snowfall (Virginia) or even here in NY where they have a relatively excellent highway department. Once the road is plowed, the sun takes over within a couple of hours and the snow tires are not needed.

The only benefit is when you get caught in a snowstorm, prior to the arrival of the plow.

In such a condition, the MB won't do all that great, but, simply drive the vehicle slower with more care on acceleration and stopping. How often do you actually get caught in a snowstorm?

I'd never spend the money on winter tires unless I lived in rural Vermont or Montana or places that get heavy snow for days on end.

Kind of reminds me of all the people who must purchase an SUV because they have to be prepared for the snow..............as if they would be stranded in a snowfall with a Camry.

Couple reasons why Brian.....I live at the end of a Cul-de-sac which is uphill out of my drive...uphill out to the main road where I have to turn left and go uphill......and Cul-De-scas are the LAST to be plowed or salted....

Lot of hills where i am....and trust me......I have all season tire on my honda....I can't get to the main road if there is more than 2 inches of snow with anything frozen under it. And frequently you HAVE to stop on those hills.

Yeah you don't need them every day but the days that you do..you really do. You are giving way too much credit to our highway dept.....its not all that good.


Besides I travel to a rural suburb of Pittsburgh when you do need real snow tires (Foothills of the Allegany mountains and the tail end of lake effect storms....) though areas freak storms are real common.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:44 AM
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You're lucky you didn't hydrolock your engine. If that water was sucked in (not at all uncommon), you would get a quick lesson in physics that water doesn't compress easily and something would have to give, ie, your valves or connecting rods.

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Old 11-09-2005, 11:44 AM
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Bonehead,
Blizzak is the way to go (literally )
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:06 PM
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...If that water was sucked in (not at all uncommon)....
Yes, but water has to get past the OEM paper filter first, and that is not easy unless you submerge the intake...

I bet you'd saturate the paper and choke off any airflow first.

You will drown the brakes, though, and even with discs it take a while to get them back!

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